CredWeb Outros (was Re: long time no chat, CredWeb friends)

Thanks Scott and Sara-Jayne.   Just to clarify, after talking with 
Scott, the meeting is *_Wednesday, 1 Nov 2023_* (9 days from now).  Zoom 
link will be posted to credweb.org <https://credweb.org>.

Also, credit to An Xiao Mina, who co-founded the group. She went on to 
other things, but she was a key part of the early stages of the group.

Continuing what Sara-Jayne started, I suggest everyone reading this post 
an "outro".  (We started the group with folks doing "intros".) I'm 
particular curious how people now feel about the Credible Web Mission 
<https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/>, and what kind of work they 
might still be doing in the field.

For myself, I'm still 100% on board with the first paragraph of the 
mission, but not the use of RDF in the second part.

I'm working full time to make this a reality. I've pivoted a few times 
in my approach, including moving away from W3C, and these days I see the 
best path to the Credible Web being an integrated data/app platform.

That is: make credibility data-sharing a part of general data sharing 
(including personal data). That way, the credibility system can use the 
rest of the data sharing system to manage credibility assessments, and 
the rest of the data sharing system can use the credibility system to 
maintain trust and safety.

I'm calling this platform with integrated credibility the Human Data 
Forum <https://humandataforum.org>. If you want to chat about it, or 
just want a beta-test invitation when they're available, let me know. 
That's slated for December.

I hope you're all doing well, and will see some of you on the call Nov 1.

      -- Sandro



On 10/23/23 13:57, Sara-Jayne Terp wrote:
> I can't make the meeting because I'm on stage at OODAcon then (talking 
> about trust landscapes with Heather McMahon), so here's a written 
> update.  I went back to live in the UK, and am now one of the tech 
> leads on ARCD - a project using machine learning to respond to cyber 
> attacks at machine speed / in places where there's no cyber expert 
> available (we have about 60 projects live around the UK right now).
>
> I took a year out from disinformation response (the DISARM Foundation 
> continues the AMITT/DISARM work), but it's starting to drag me back in 
> again - I recently started an ATT&CK version for the mis/dis/mal 
> around LLMs, so we can talk about how they're duped vs how humans are; 
> and had fun using LLMs to create an information training environment, 
> with LLM chatbots doing narrative attack and response.  Other than 
> that, I've been pretty quiet.
>
> Sj.
>
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 13:02, Scott Yates <scott@journallist.net> wrote:
>
>     You are getting this email because at some point you were a part
>     of the CredWeb group in W3C, started by the incomparable Sandro
>     Hawke.
>
>     Then I came in and tried to create a new mission for the group,
>     and then we all just moved on.
>
>     This group is now going to get deleted unless we find a new source
>     of inspiration and leadership, but before we do that... maybe we
>     could just get together to get quick updates on what we've all
>     been doing?
>
>     Let's do it at the time we used to do it: this Wednesday at 4 p.m.
>     in London, 11 a.m. Eastern, 8 a.m. in California.
>
>     Here's a Google Calendar link.
>     <https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NWxmcmJtYWhwajBpbmt1dWVtZmYzNm04bzUgc2NvdHRAam91cm5hbGxpc3QubmV0&tmsrc=scott%40journallist.net>
>
>     I hope to see a lot of you there! If you can't make that time,
>     feel free to drop Sandro and me a note and let us know what you
>     are up to, and if you have any thoughts about keeping the CredWeb
>     group going.
>
>     -Scott Yates
>
>
>
> -- 
> Sara-Jayne Terp
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