Nobel Prizes, Identifying individuals, was Re: journalism award signals

On 2/19/20 6:59 PM, Annette Greiner wrote:
>
> One of the things that the awards idea makes me think about is 
> evaluating not just a site but the organization that publishes it. 
> Scientific organizations don't get journalism awards, but their 
> researchers may well get prestigious scientific awards, like Nobel 
> Prizes and Fields Medals. I work at a lab that's pretty conspicuous 
> for its Nobels, so I don't want to emphasize that more than it 
> deserves, but in general I want to make sure this list doesn't end up 
> only making sense for journalistic sites.
>

Yeah, we talked about the Nobel Prize briefly in the meeting today, 
concluding it doesn't really fit the current definitional structure of 
"Any Award", even though it clearly could be useful.  We agreed to 
postpone that consideration, thinking about it for a later version, not 
today's.

One huge question there is how to identify individuals in this kind of 
data. There are technical, legal, political, and social challenges 
there, I think.  I really want us to tackle that, but it's not going to 
be easy. If I had to solve it today, I'd say use one more URLs for pages 
about the person, like list several of these as all be URLs for pages 
primarily about the person who won the award:

https://twitter.com/malala
https://malala.org/malalas-story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2014/yousafzai/biographical/
https://www.instagram.com/malala/

Some of those (1, 2, and 5) are also places where her content appears, 
which is a related but different thing.

      -- Sandro



> -Annette
>
> On 2/19/20 9:21 AM, Sandro Hawke wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/20 11:48 AM, Sastry, Nishanth wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Sandro, all,
>>>
>>> This just a quick email to introduce myself as a new member to the 
>>> group, from King’s College London. I had applied to the credible web 
>>> WG several months back, but got approved by our University contact 
>>> just days before, and have since been added to this email list.
>>>
>>> We have done a bunch of work looking at
>>>
>>>  1. hyper partisan websites, in the context of the US Presidential
>>>     elections:
>>>
>>>   * https://nms.kcl.ac.uk/nishanth.sastry/publication/nrswww-2018-b/
>>>       o This provided inputs for a major expose by Buzzfeed News:
>>>         https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/inside-the-partisan-fight-for-your-news-feed
>>>   * https://nms.kcl.ac.uk/nishanth.sastry/publication/nrswww-2020/
>>>       o Showing that right leaning sites track more intensely than
>>>         left leaning sites (Covered by WIRED:
>>>         https://www.wired.com/story/right-left-news-site-ad-tracking/)
>>>
>>>  2. bias in news and social media during political crises
>>>
>>>   * https://nms.kcl.ac.uk/nishanth.sastry/publication/karamshuk-16-slant/
>>>
>>>  3. And finally, on transferring trust across domains (which is very
>>>     aligned with what I see in the signals draft. We also use age as
>>>     an “ungameable” signal to transfer trust across domains. We do
>>>     this for IDs of individuals rather than domains, but the paper
>>>     develops ways to calibrate trust, answering questions such as –
>>>     is a 10 year-old Facebook ID more trustworthy than a 15 year old
>>>     Gmail ID, for example):
>>>
>>>   * https://nms.kcl.ac.uk/nishanth.sastry/publication/nr-swww-16/
>>>
>>
>> Very nice.  I'd love to get into signals about individuals, but we it 
>> looked like websites would be a little simpler, and we wanted to 
>> start in the simplest possible place.  Hopefully we can get into such 
>> things fairly soon.
>>
>>>  *
>>>
>>>
>>> I will join the Zoom at 7pm GMT, and can add any further details 
>>> that may be interesting to the group. Looking forward.
>>>
>>
>> Great, looking forward to meeting you.  This meeting will be mostly 
>> about wrapping up this little sprint, but then hopefully we can 
>> expand a bit for the next phase.
>>
>>      -- Sandro
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> nishanth
>>>
>>> *From: *Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 15:51
>>> *To: *Credible Web CG <public-credibility@w3.org>
>>> *Subject: *journalism award signals
>>> *Resent from: *<public-credibility@w3.org>
>>> *Resent date: *Wednesday, 19 February 2020 at 15:51
>>>
>>> I did a bit more work on the Journalism Awards, framing it as a 
>>> general signal and one more specific signals.
>>>
>>> I put them into the "reviewed signals" draft, marked as "pending".
>>>
>>> Here's a dated version of that draft: 
>>> https://credweb.org/reviewed-signals-20200219/ 
>>> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcredweb.org%2Freviewed-signals-20200219%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cnishanth.sastry%40kcl.ac.uk%7C1c1f34f786234483d96c08d7b5539380%7C8370cf1416f34c16b83c724071654356%7C0&sdata=Vf7GBSfAxU5%2BtP8oOqK1vMf0Oxw2DgDXLWtBoQ8f4k0%3D&reserved=0>  
>>> (The undated version presumably wont show them as pending after 
>>> today, which could confuse someone reading this later.)
>>>
>>> Meeting in about 3 hours, as usual. Agenda 
>>> <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1-KcB121I6D6J2ZdQET-qatqCaqv3ttlZkfhgyWEk7nM%2Fedit&data=01%7C01%7Cnishanth.sastry%40kcl.ac.uk%7C1c1f34f786234483d96c08d7b5539380%7C8370cf1416f34c16b83c724071654356%7C0&sdata=fu%2FG4cV3ziND%2BcDFacnZsRAKJLiVYuYwRF9c9Ik%2FSFM%3D&reserved=0>.
>>>
>>>        -- Sandro
>>>
>>>
>>
> -- 
> Annette Greiner (she)
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>