Meeting last week, *tomorrow*, and future

(Posted at on the group blog 
<https://www.w3.org/community/credibility/2019/10/21/weekly-meetings-jti-amtt-and-beyond/>)

*Last week’s meeting* was about the Journalism Trust Initiative (JTI), 
the European effort to standardize quality process for journalism. 
Thanks so much to JTI lead Olaf Steenfadt for joining us, along with 
Scott Yates. We have recorded video of the presentation and some of the 
discussion. As usual, this is available on request to group members, but 
remains group confidential.

Some things discussed that particularly resonated for me:

  * I appreciated the point that as with most industry self-regulation
    efforts, it’s about providing consumer safety. Many industries face
    this problem of some members of the industry not living up to the
    standards most of the industry considers appropriate.
  * The word “trust” in JTI is both problematic and redundant, although
    it’s too difficult to change now. This is more about defining what
    is legitimate, real, high-quality journalism. All journalism is
    supposed to be trustworthy.
  * I still get confused on how a whitelist (like this) is anything
    other than the complement of a blacklist (which this is explicitly
    not). I’m still looking for a distinction that feels right to me.
  * There’s no answer yet on how this data might be interchanged, or how
    this all might be verified and used in practice
  * Even though we’re past the comment period, and JTI is about to be
    finalized in the standards process, work will continue, and there
    should be ongoing revisions in due course.

Lots more details in the Meeting Records, scribed in duplicate 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bj_l0fR7k4-3pyVK5iaKnAz0_LMUBBNDoS8Lh57Hf20/edit>.

*Tomorrow’s meeting 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jbUzm7jBcZBl5FLfVFH5bi-3x4_e1eOBBBmH-ON9Rp0/edit>* 
is about a plan (AMITT or AM!TT) to categorize misinformation attacks 
and allow data about them to be shared, potentially in real time. It’s 
an extension to MITRE ATT&CK framework (“A knowledge base for describing 
behavior of cyber adversaries across their intrusion lifecycle”) and is 
intended to be compatible with Cyber Threat Intelligence (CTI) data 
exchange technologies STIX and TAXII 
<https://oasis-open.github.io/cti-documentation/>.

Caption: AMITT Framework Navigator 
<https://vvx7.github.io/amitt-navigator/amitt/>

For more, see the AM!TT Framework 
<https://github.com/misinfosecproject/amitt_framework> and/or come to 
tomorrow’s meeting.

*Beyond tomorrow*, for now I’ve scheduled four more meetings, continuing 
our Tuesday pattern (29 Oct, 5 Nov, 12 Nov, 19 Nov). I have IPTC 
penciled in for the 12th, and we have several other pending topics:

  * What data protocols and formats should NewsQA, JTI, etc be using for
    exchanging data?
  * How can we help manage these overlapping signals schemas?
  * Is there a good objective framework for measuring credibility? (We
    asked the question in last years report
    <https://credweb.org/report/20181011>. I recently had an idea
    <https://twitter.com/sandhawke/status/1185712351913402369> I really
    like on this.)
  * Should we update and re-issue the report
    <https://credweb.org/report/20181011>? Are there people who want to
    help?
  * What about credibility tools inside web browsers?
  * Claim Review, data about fact checking
  * NewsQA part 2, looking at specific signals

If you’d like to present or help organize on any of these topics, please 
let me know. We could also run them as an open discussion, without a 
presenter.

       -- Sandro