Re: Data With DIDs (DWD) [was: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?]

To simplify the model (and the discussion), assume the value of a DWD DID Document service endpoint is an Agent DID ...in effect, DWD introduces one level of DID indirection.

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Subject: Re: Data With DIDs (DWD) [was: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?]

Given an identifier/key for a piece of data (e.g. purchase order/waybill number) or the data itself, how do you find the service endpoint URL for the authoritative agent/controller? ...what about when the agent moves or changes?

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Subject: Re: Data With DIDs (DWD) [was: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?]

Michael, I understand the computation-to-data inversion, but I’m still
unclear what specifically requires a DID/DID Document per data object.
If the service endpoint ultimately identifies the authoritative agent
controlling the data, what property would be lost by giving that
controller the DID and addressing individual data through subordinate
resource identifiers? I’m trying to understand the DWD
granularity/scaling model, particularly in light of your
selective-disclosure point.

On Tue, 8 Sept 2026 at 07:54, Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web)
<mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:
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> Good points Thanh, DWD isn’t intended to be a universal solution (yet 😉).
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> Somewhat related, the DWD model also makes the implementation of capabilities such as selective disclosure and self-sovereign control of data mostly straightforward. TBPIP.
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> Michael
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> From: Thanh Le <vnlemanhthanh@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2026 7:32 PM
> To: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
> Cc: Vikas Malhotra <vikasmal@woplli.com>; public-credentials@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Data With DIDs (DWD) [was: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?]
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> Hi Michael,
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> Interesting inversion. If the DWD resolves to an agent with authority over the data, DIDComm gives us an authenticated way to send the action to where the data lives.
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> The part I think remains interesting is that authority and operation semantics are action-specific. Two sites can both legitimately process  “compare”, for example, yet disagree on what “same” means.
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> Search makes this especially visible: the source data can remain local, but global discovery and ranking will probably still require some derived representation to move.
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> So perhaps the hard boundary shifts from moving data to agreeing on what an authorized operation actually means.
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> Best,
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> Thanh Le
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> On Tue, Sep 8, 2026 at 6:24 AM Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:
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> Last one for today…
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> What if: every web site on the planet started to accept DIDComm Messages and was able to locally process Consort/DIDComm payloads?
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> How would search fundamentally change? ...booking sites? ...trading sites? ...public sector services?
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> Eh, Drummond?  WOW
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> Michael
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> From: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2026 5:05 PM
> To: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>; Vikas Malhotra <vikasmal@woplli.com>
> Cc: public-credentials@w3.org; drummond.reed@gmail.com; Sam Curren (telegramsam@gmail.com) <telegramsam@gmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Data With DIDs (DWD) [was: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?]
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> Data With DIDs (DWD) inverts the entire Decentralized World Model (DWM). The service endpoint for a piece of data is the service endpoint of the agent that has authoritative control (sovereign control) over the data ...the original data. That is, the agent with the authority to determine if the actions can/should be performed (and then decide to act on the DWD).
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> ...no retrieval, no syncing, no replication, no duplication, no intermediate encoding/packing/unpacking, ... This solves a lot of issues.
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> Michael
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> From: Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2026 4:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?
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> Absolutely Vika.  In addition, one option for specifying the DIDComm Message payload (the pipeline of serial and parallel actions to be performed) is Consort Structured English for AI: https://github.com/mwherman2000/Consort/blob/main/Consort%20Structured%20English%20for%20AI%20Super%20Prompt.txt. It’s all coming together. 😊
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> From: Vikas Malhotra <vikasmal@woplli.com>
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> Subject: Re: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?
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> Michael -
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> I think this is a worthwhile pursuit. Will require some more discussion regarding granularity of data, but this is how we begin to realize true decentralization and different service architecture.
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> Best,
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> Subject: What if: Data had DIDs (and a DID Document)?
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> For example, annual reports, SEC filings, concert announcements, Facebook postings, email messages, …?  What if each instance of these had its own DID and DID Document? …so that you could send a DIDComm message to it?
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> E.g. DIDComm Message Type examples:
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> - did:drn:svrn7.net:reporting/1.0/retrieve
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> - did:drn:svrn7.net:reporting/1.0/sort
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> - …
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> The current Web paradigm is to pull or push data to where it is to be processed …why not send the processing actions to the performed to the data?
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