Re: Time for an updated CCG website?

Hat tip and brownie points, or whatever currency brings smile to your face, Manu,

Wonderful improvement, and a great step forward for the community becoming increasingly accessible.

Kalin

From: Andor Kesselman <andor@andor.us>
Date: Sunday, July 6, 2025 at 3:34 AM
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Time for an updated CCG website?

This is awesome Manu. I like the updated website.

For kicks: I ran some performance/speed insights tests (left is old, right is new). Interestingly, newer websites performed much better in accessibility.
Link to the report : https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-w3c-ccg-github-io/chsybm35i3?form_factor=desktop


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In terms of content: The current website feels more focused on community contributors, while the new one does a better job supporting those looking to edify themselves on the CCG activities. Given how much visibility CCG is getting now, I think a more balanced approach, one that also speaks to newcomers unfamiliar with the great work that happens here, would be good.

Just my two cents. Looking forward to hearing what everyone else thinks.

- A

On Sat, Jul 5, 2025 at 9:47 AM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com<mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> wrote:
Hey folks,

Our website is looking a bit long in the tooth these days... much of
the information is out of date and that's never a good thing for a
vibrant community such as ours to communicate to the outside world.

Completely unrelated, but in parallel, tech CEOs selling AI are very
excited about this whole "vibe coding" thing and firing the very
people that helped build their companies for them. While I don't
expect that sentiment to age well, I'm also excited by the prospect
that I might be able to fire myself from the more mundane parts of the
job... like creating content explaining exactly what we do here, but
then spending hours fighting with CSS. :P

Putting those two things together, I tried vibe coding a new
minimalist CCG website. As you can probably imagine, it was an awful
experience... 15 minutes to generate the website, and then four hours
to undo many of the small but terrible things the AI did... but maybe
that's better than the two days it might have taken to pick the
appropriate set of modern technologies, write the content, fight with
CSS (kidding, fighting CSS would've taken four days for that alone),
and get the site published. One of the requirements is maintainability
(simple enough for someone to edit a file in HTML and then have the
system build/publish the new website).

I'm not shooting for "great" here... just "better than what we have".
Circulating this before it's ready to see if we should keep going...
the content could be better, some of the links are broken, it's more
minimal than we probably want in time, but it probably has the basics
(how to join, when we meet, link to our calendar, and github
repository, etc.). It's at a temporary link for now:

https://msporny.github.io/w3c-ccg-website/


compare that to our current website:

https://w3c-ccg.github.io/


.... which one would people prefer? If the new one is good enough for
now, I can clean it up, move it over to CCG, and publish it. We can
improve over the coming weeks. In time, we can have links to the list
of global standards we've created together, as well as the list of
work items being incubated.

-- manu

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