Re: Time for an updated CCG website?

There is also an issue with the media view on my iPhone such that half of
the pop up menu is not seen.

-Brent

On Sunday, July 6, 2025, Will Abramson <will@legreq.com> wrote:

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> Apologies, forgot to attach this.
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> On Mon, Jul 7, 2025, 05:05 Will Abramson <will@legreq.com> wrote:
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>> Hey Manu,
>>
>> Thanks for this, I agree the website is definitely an improvement.
>>
>> Not reviewed it in depth but a couple of minor things:
>>
>> The drop-down burger menu is wonky on mobile. See attached
>>
>> Might be good to put the CCG call time in CET and Pacific as well.
>>
>> Finally, and this could be later. One of the hardest parts of any website
>> is not creating it, but maintaining it over time. And doing so in a way
>> that does not place the burden on the person who created it.
>>
>> One thing we could explore is statically generated content from markdown
>> files in a GitHub repo. Thinking this might be especially useful for things
>> like having a page for each work item currently active.
>>
>> The main content is probably fine as just inline html. Hopefully this
>> doesn't need to change much.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Will review more deeply once I'm back home,
>> Will
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2025, 18:48 Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Our website is looking a bit long in the tooth these days... much of
>>> the information is out of date and that's never a good thing for a
>>> vibrant community such as ours to communicate to the outside world.
>>>
>>> Completely unrelated, but in parallel, tech CEOs selling AI are very
>>> excited about this whole "vibe coding" thing and firing the very
>>> people that helped build their companies for them. While I don't
>>> expect that sentiment to age well, I'm also excited by the prospect
>>> that I might be able to fire myself from the more mundane parts of the
>>> job... like creating content explaining exactly what we do here, but
>>> then spending hours fighting with CSS. :P
>>>
>>> Putting those two things together, I tried vibe coding a new
>>> minimalist CCG website. As you can probably imagine, it was an awful
>>> experience... 15 minutes to generate the website, and then four hours
>>> to undo many of the small but terrible things the AI did... but maybe
>>> that's better than the two days it might have taken to pick the
>>> appropriate set of modern technologies, write the content, fight with
>>> CSS (kidding, fighting CSS would've taken four days for that alone),
>>> and get the site published. One of the requirements is maintainability
>>> (simple enough for someone to edit a file in HTML and then have the
>>> system build/publish the new website).
>>>
>>> I'm not shooting for "great" here... just "better than what we have".
>>> Circulating this before it's ready to see if we should keep going...
>>> the content could be better, some of the links are broken, it's more
>>> minimal than we probably want in time, but it probably has the basics
>>> (how to join, when we meet, link to our calendar, and github
>>> repository, etc.). It's at a temporary link for now:
>>>
>>> https://msporny.github.io/w3c-ccg-website/
>>>
>>> compare that to our current website:
>>>
>>> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/
>>>
>>> ... which one would people prefer? If the new one is good enough for
>>> now, I can clean it up, move it over to CCG, and publish it. We can
>>> improve over the coming weeks. In time, we can have links to the list
>>> of global standards we've created together, as well as the list of
>>> work items being incubated.
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
>>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>>> https://www.digitalbazaar.com/
>>>
>>>

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