Re: Multiligual Credentials

Doesn't the `inLanguage` approach (per Nate's example) mean that an
individual has essentially been given two (albeit "related") Acheivements?
One in English (which is apparently the primary one) and a related
Achievement in Italian? The VCDM approach--while perhaps "awkward" or at
least different for some with its use of arrays and objects--does mean that
your data model would result in only one Achievement being given with its
contents available in multiple languages.

I don't know how important that is to EDU related implementers, but the
modeling does seem off a bit...

Regardless, you may also want to consider adding text direction as a
property which can be important to some languages and renderers.

There's also a great read from the I18N group at the W3C called "Developing
Localizable Manifests"
https://www.w3.org/TR/localizable-manifests/#indicating It covers the pros
and cons of most known (or at least existing) approaches for JSON. However,
it does not cover "multilingual strings"...which is another can of worms
entirely. :)

Cheers,
Benjamin

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:13 PM Kerri Lemoie <klemoie@mit.edu> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
>
>
> At the November 18, VC-EDU call, we discussed approaches to multilingual
> credentials (transcription and audio available through this tool:
> https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/scribe-tool/).
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> I believe this is an important topic especially for education related
> credentials.
>
>
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> I’d like to kick-off a discussion on this thread and consider a follow-up
> discussion at VC-EDU again and/or CCG soon. Together we can consider
> pragmatic approaches that will help to make the credentials as useable and
> understandable as possible.
>
>
>
> Primarily we discussed two ways that I’m aware of that we could issue
> credentials in multiple languages.
>
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> *W3C VCDM approach:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model-2.0/#example-example-dual-language-credential
> <https://www.w3.org/TR/vc-data-model-2.0/#example-example-dual-language-credential>*
>
>
>
> The angle of this approach is to provide translations within the
> properties themselves.
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> *1EdTech Open Badges 3.0 & Comprehensive Learner Record V2:
> https://gist.github.com/ottonomy/12bd1e1f5510d3f49d966b1991f1e6c8
> <https://gist.github.com/ottonomy/12bd1e1f5510d3f49d966b1991f1e6c8> (draft
> gist provided by Nate Otto – thanks)*
>
>
>
> This approach specifies creating related achievements that could be in
> different languages using:
>
>    - related (
>    https://www.imsglobal.org/spec/ob/v3p0#org.1edtech.ob.v3p0.related.class
>    )
>    - with a languageCode: (
>    https://www.imsglobal.org/spec/ob/v3p0#org.1edtech.ob.v3p0.derived.languagecode.class
>    )
>
>
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> It’s worth noting this approach has been used by the 1EdTech specs prior
> to the more current versions that are aligned to VCs and that they could be
> open to changing this in a subsequent version.
>
>
>
> Also worth noting that the current Open Badges 3.0 and CLR v2 (presumably
> since they are very similar) schemas will not allow for the VCDM method
> because the properties where you would likely apply this are expected to be
> strings versus arrays or objects. So, any software verifying against the
> schemas will return an error if say, both the VCDM and the 1EdTech angles
> to multilingual credentials are used simultaneously.
>
> Would love to hear from you about it.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> K.
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>
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