Re: VC formats

Hi,
clearly this is a FUD strategy, the statement is misleading with possible
intention to create confusion and distrust.

And the European context? The same as usual, corrupcy, bureaucracy, and
incompetence where EU citizens rights/needs are the last to consider.

European context, better word would be specifics, right? (because EU is so
special in that we like to pay a lot for getting less), sounds like an
excuse for creating requiements suiting to one or a few already
pre-selected providers, a big enterprise with deep pockets and the right
politicians ears? Simply, let's make it not so open as some spec names
would suggest, and confusion, distrust, uncertainty is the way to get there.

Hopefully, once we can get back to engineering.

Best,
Filip





On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 4:04 PM Lluís Alfons Ariño Martín <
lluisalfons.arino@urv.cat> wrote:

> Good afternoon (in my time zone),
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> Normally I do not have an active participation in this group, but I had
> planned to convey and discuss this point with the group coordinators. Some
> knowledge of the European context is required to understand the document
> and the proposal correctly (personally, I think it is beneficial for the
> world of verifiable credentials)
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> I would suggest holding a meeting with the chairs to give the correct
> context, and see potential synergies.
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> Lluis
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> *From: *Markus Sabadello <markus@danubetech.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 20 March 2024 at 10:20
> *To: *public-credentials@w3.org <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: VC formats
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> I also found this statement about VCDM very strange, which is why I raised
> an issue about this on this repo a week ago:
> https://github.com/danielfett/sd-jwt-vc-dm/issues
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> I agree with Orie that "Selective disclosure is a property of the securing
> format, not the data model" and that therefore strictly speaking selective
> disclosure happens in ecdsa-sd, not in VCDM.
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> However, the way the slide is presented makes it sound like selective
> disclosure is somehow not possible with VCDM at all, which is incorrect.
> Also see the red X symbol in the above repo's README.
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> In my opinion, communication by the (SD-)JWT (VC (DM)) community about
> selective disclosure in VCDM has been misleading / dishonest since the
> beginning.
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> The other issue I raised on that repo is about their claim of being
> compatible with the W3C VCDM v2, which I could not understand based on the
> examples in that repo.
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> Markus
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> On 3/20/24 08:51, Kim Hamilton wrote:
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> Hi all,
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> I'm trying to get my head around the variety of VC formats. I ran across
> this deck and I'm curious why it would say VCDM lacks selective disclosure
> (included screenshot and deck). It does via signature suites, so in a sense
> the statement "does not compute".
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> Eager to learn about the new VC formats, similarities and differences.
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> Thanks,
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> Kim
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