Re: [External] Pop Quiz: Where do DIDs belong from an Enterprise Architecture perspective?

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 1:49 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> FWIW we built petnames into the core protocol of nostr.  They have not
> really been used so far, after millions of users with different workflows.
> There are still a few devs that advocate for them, but they have yet to
> show what the utility is.  I'd be happy if someone could articulate a use
> case that might catch on.
>
>
I don't know enough about nostr to comment, but petnames aren't meant to be
a part of a core protocol.  They typically only appear in the UI.  The
one-to-one relationship allows the UI to translate between the low level
opaque name and what the user sees.

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Alan Karp


On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 1:49 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> ne 29. 12. 2024 v 19:15 odesílatel Alan Karp <alanhkarp@gmail.com> napsal:
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>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 2:29 AM Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <
>> mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting related question for a UX expert is: If DIDs are
>>> low-level technology artifacts, what are the best/most appropriate UX
>>> metaphors to surface in real apps?
>>>
>>> Petnames.  A petname is a human meaningful string that is associated
>> one-to-one with an opaque identifier.
>>
>
> FWIW we built petnames into the core protocol of nostr.  They have not
> really been used so far, after millions of users with different workflows.
> There are still a few devs that advocate for them, but they have yet to
> show what the utility is.  I'd be happy if someone could articulate a use
> case that might catch on.
>
>
>>
>> --------------
>> Alan Karp
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 2:29 AM Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <
>> mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting related question for a UX expert is: If DIDs are
>>> low-level technology artifacts, what are the best/most appropriate UX
>>> metaphors to surface in real apps?
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net
>>> >
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2024 8:13:29 AM
>>> *To:* Kishore Rajasekharuni <kishore.rajasekharuni@jukshio.com>
>>> *Cc:* public-credentials (public-credentials@w3.org) <
>>> public-credentials@w3.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [External] Pop Quiz: Where do DIDs belong from an
>>> Enterprise Architecture perspective?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your analysis Kishore.When I say "DIDs", I'm being very
>>> literal:
>>> A DID = decentralized identifier = "did:wxyz:1234" character string.
>>>
>>> The answer to the question gets into the subtleties of decentralized
>>> identifiers (e.g. did:wxyz:1234). They are not intended to be
>>> human-friendly or comprehensible (like a checksum or a GUID); hence in my
>>> mind, they are low-level technical/infrastructure concepts/elements - at
>>> the very most, the lowest levels of your application architecture
>>> (admitting this is actually going too far IMO).
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to revisit how a platform like .NET abstracts an
>>> identifier up the chain into higher level application objects like an
>>> Identity or Principal (.NET terminology).
>>>
>>> Michael Herman
>>> CEO and First Principles Thinker
>>> Web 7.0 Foundation / Trusted Digital Web (TDW)
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kishore Rajasekharuni <kishore.rajasekharuni@jukshio.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2024 8:34:31 AM
>>> *To:* Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <mwherman@parallelspace.net>
>>> *Cc:* public-credentials (public-credentials@w3.org) <
>>> public-credentials@w3.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [External] Pop Quiz: Where do DIDs belong from an
>>> Enterprise Architecture perspective?
>>>
>>> My understanding - DiD can be part of  Party Management in the Business
>>> architecture layer.  At the application architecture layer, it can be the
>>> Digital Identity module exposing APIs for Onboarding, Identity Proofing and
>>> Fraud Detection. The underlying Digital Identity Apps / Portals can be part
>>> of the Technology / Infrastructure architecture.
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Kishore
>>>
>>> On 27 Dec 2024, at 12:07 PM, Michael Herman (Trusted Digital Web) <
>>> mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Are DIDs part of the:
>>> - Business architecture/layer/domain
>>> - Application architecture/layer/domain
>>> - Technology/Infrastructure architecture/layer/domain?
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>