- From: Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries>
- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 20:59:35 -0500
- To: Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com>
- Cc: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>, W3C DID Working Group <public-did-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAN8C-_KPLFxs_mEXhdXAxET=3Mdc_0cHHBRwQbtWhqW=PasbZg@mail.gmail.com>
Some history of illegal identifiers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number OS On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 8:36 PM Kim Hamilton <kimdhamilton@gmail.com> wrote: > The problem is that the term "legally compliant" is not yet clear here. I > echo Manu, etc, who are pointing out that this will take years to shake > out. What is being discussed here instead is a problem of interpretation > and perception. > > I'm not saying that to discount problems of perception. But we need more > data to provide the best solution if a change is needed. > > Particularly, if there are claims that groups at W3C are "indifferent > to...laws" (assuming CCG is included in that set) , we absolutely need to > learn more about that and escalate to W3C leadership asap to help us > navigate. > > It sounds separately (for different reasons) like there are calls for > cleanup or removal of the registry. We should untangle that too, but claims > that we don't care about the law are the proverbial gun to our head. It > will be hard to move onto anything else until we understand that more. > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 1:11 PM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> st 14. 6. 2023 v 15:27 odesÃlatel Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> >> napsal: >> >>> > On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 14:14:14 (+02:00), Melvin Carvalho wrote: >>> > st 7. 6. 2023 v 15:20 odesÃlatel Michael Prorock < >>> michael.prorock@mesur.io> napsal: >>> >> Personal hat firmly on, I would be a fan of removing the did >>> registry. Especially in favor of standardizing of few methods, such as >>> did:web >>> > >>> > That makes sense to me, Mike, as a possible way forward >>> >>> -1, that sounds dangerously close to censoring everyone publishing a >>> DID Method in the registry just because of a few bad actors and >>> assertions that have yet to work their way through the legal system. >>> >>> We shouldn't turn our back on those that are trying to re-decentralize >>> the Web. Yes, we should consider these events and discuss how we might >>> respond to them, but no, we shouldn't overreact and shut the whole >>> thing down (as much as there are those that would like to see that >>> happen). >>> >>> Chaals said many of the things that I wanted to say, only more >>> eloquently put than I could have done. >>> >>> I'm saying the above as one of the maintainers of the DID Spec >>> Registries, who is not fond of the amount of work that that particular >>> registry produces. >>> >>> I'm also saying this as one of the DID WG members who fought hard to >>> ensure that we'd have a mechanism that allowed many flowers to bloom. >>> >>> There are problems with the DID Spec Registries that need to be >>> addressed, but shutting the whole thing down sounds premature and >>> feels like an overreaction to events that are going to take years to >>> unfold. >>> >> >> Manu, would it be feasible to consider a two-step process for the >> registry? >> >> 1. Establish a consensus for inclusion of only legally compliant >> methods in the registry. >> 2. Align the current registry to reflect this new consensus. >> >> This approach may alleviate concerns that some groups in the W3C are >> indifferent to legal, specifically securities, laws. As a respected entity, >> it's essential that the W3C adheres to all laws, showcasing its commitment >> to uphold legal standards. >> >> >>> >>> -- manu >>> >>> -- >>> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/ >>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >>> https://www.digitalbazaar.com/ >>> >>>
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