- From: Tomislav Markovski <tomislav@trinsic.id>
- Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:24:33 -0400
- To: Tobias Looker <tobias.looker@mattr.global>
- Cc: Steve Capell <steve.capell@gmail.com>, Kyano Kashi <kyanokashi2@gmail.com>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
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Naming is fun. I would even take this a step further and move away from the loaded word "trust" to something more generic like "membership list" or "membership registry" or simply just "registry". You can then have a "registry" named "authorized issuers" or "trusted verifiers" to reflect the specific use case. In addition, and on topic, registries can also have privacy-preserving features and can be implemented using technologies like cryptographic accumulators. Accumulators support use-cases where registry or list membership is sensitive and shouldn't reveal information about everyone in the registry. For example a registry of authorized debt collection agencies, or list of obgyn licensed providers. We've done some POC work in this area and I would love to have these privacy use cases supported by the subject of our topic. On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:29 PM Tobias Looker <tobias.looker@mattr.global> wrote: > This is a great and much needed initiative for the credential space. I > would note that I think language like "authorized issuer lists" does tend > to setup the possible misconception that there is a singular arbiter around > who to trust for a particular credential type when in reality trust is > contextual. Therefore, I think "trust lists" or "trust registries" are > perhaps a better language framing of what we are looking for an > interoperable solution to. > > Thanks, > > [image: Mattr website] > <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D15517%26d%3Dw46s4eMXULV_ns1ZfAKYLbVKcqey_PHiW1WeN4boYw%26u%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fmattr.global%252f&data=04%7C01%7CSteve.Lowes%40mbie.govt.nz%7C5a65fe33c70b41fd8ba908d976f3a2f1%7C78b2bd11e42b47eab0112e04c3af5ec1%7C0%7C0%7C637671611076709977%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tKqCMzLUQNCeORd908YqfqZoT7tCy%2FMVwXdjpch1sDY%3D&reserved=0> > > > > *Tobias Looker* > > MATTR > CTO > > +64 (0) 27 378 0461 > tobias.looker@mattr.global > > [image: Mattr website] > <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D15517%26d%3Dw46s4eMXULV_ns1ZfAKYLbVKcqey_PHiW1WeN4boYw%26u%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fmattr.global%252f&data=04%7C01%7CSteve.Lowes%40mbie.govt.nz%7C5a65fe33c70b41fd8ba908d976f3a2f1%7C78b2bd11e42b47eab0112e04c3af5ec1%7C0%7C0%7C637671611076709977%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tKqCMzLUQNCeORd908YqfqZoT7tCy%2FMVwXdjpch1sDY%3D&reserved=0> > > [image: Mattr on LinkedIn] > <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D15517%26d%3Dw46s4eMXULV_ns1ZfAKYLbVKcqey_PHiW1SbN9fvNg%26u%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fwww.linkedin.com%252fcompany%252fmattrglobal&data=04%7C01%7CSteve.Lowes%40mbie.govt.nz%7C5a65fe33c70b41fd8ba908d976f3a2f1%7C78b2bd11e42b47eab0112e04c3af5ec1%7C0%7C0%7C637671611076719975%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=t%2BidOI32oaKuTJf1AkcG%2B%2FirIJwbrgzXVZnjOAC52Hs%3D&reserved=0> > > [image: Mattr on Twitter] > <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D15517%26d%3Dw46s4eMXULV_ns1ZfAKYLbVKcqey_PHiW1WdMte6ZA%26u%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252ftwitter.com%252fmattrglobal&data=04%7C01%7CSteve.Lowes%40mbie.govt.nz%7C5a65fe33c70b41fd8ba908d976f3a2f1%7C78b2bd11e42b47eab0112e04c3af5ec1%7C0%7C0%7C637671611076729970%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BD9WWyXEjVGlbpbCja93yW%2FzLJZpe%2Ff8lGooe8V6i7w%3D&reserved=0> > > [image: Mattr on Github] > <https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fscanmail.trustwave.com%2F%3Fc%3D15517%26d%3Dw46s4eMXULV_ns1ZfAKYLbVKcqey_PHiWwGdMoDtMw%26u%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fgithub.com%252fmattrglobal&data=04%7C01%7CSteve.Lowes%40mbie.govt.nz%7C5a65fe33c70b41fd8ba908d976f3a2f1%7C78b2bd11e42b47eab0112e04c3af5ec1%7C0%7C0%7C637671611076729970%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4AhRuXZCnU5i3hcngo4H3UiNayYUtXpRcImV4slS1mw%3D&reserved=0> > > > This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are > not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me > immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this > communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that > this communication does not designate an information system for the > purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Steve Capell <steve.capell@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 15 August 2022 09:39 > *To:* Kyano Kashi <kyanokashi2@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>; W3C Credentials CG < > public-credentials@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: Authorized Issuer Lists > > EXTERNAL EMAIL: This email originated outside of our organisation. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender and know > the content is safe. > > Yes! > > And then the school includes the accreditation vc in their student > credential vc > > Steven Capell > Mob: 0410 437854 > > On 15 Aug 2022, at 7:28 am, Kyano Kashi <kyanokashi2@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Manu, > > Forgive my ignorance, but couldn’t we simply have the American Bar > Association issue VCs to the schools it wishes to accredit for issuing law > VCs? > > Best, > > Kyano > > On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:19 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > The topic of "lists of authorized issuers for certain types of > credentials" has been floating around the VC community for a few years > now. We don't seem to have hit a point where implementers and > customers feel they absolutely need the feature, but there has been > enough curiosity around it to perhaps have some exploratory technical > discussions at some of the upcoming conferences. > > The basic concept here is: Can a verifier lean on established trust it > has in some authority, such as an accreditation body, to get a list of > issuers for particular types of credentials? To focus on a use case in > education, how would the American Bar Association publish a list of > all law schools that it has accredited to issue law degree VCs? > > The following paper calls for the exploration of the topic, starting > at the upcoming RWoT in The Hague (end of September): > > > https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot11-the-hague/blob/master/advance-readings/authorized-issuer-lists.md > > Thoughts, concerns, and identification of similar work, are all welcome. > > -- manu > > -- > Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/ > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > News: Digital Bazaar Announces New Case Studies (2021) > https://www.digitalbazaar.com/ > >
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