Re: Authorized Issuer Lists

Naming is fun. I would even take this a step further and move away from the
loaded word "trust" to something more generic like "membership list" or
"membership registry" or simply just "registry". You can then have a
"registry" named "authorized issuers" or "trusted verifiers" to reflect the
specific use case.

In addition, and on topic, registries can also have privacy-preserving
features and can be implemented using technologies like cryptographic
accumulators. Accumulators support use-cases where registry or list
membership is sensitive and shouldn't reveal information about everyone in
the registry. For example a registry of authorized debt collection
agencies, or list of obgyn licensed providers.
We've done some POC work in this area and I would love to have these
privacy use cases supported by the subject of our topic.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:29 PM Tobias Looker <tobias.looker@mattr.global>
wrote:

> This is a great and much needed initiative for the credential space. I
> would note that I think language like "authorized issuer lists" does tend
> to setup the possible misconception that there is a singular arbiter around
> who to trust for a particular credential type when in reality trust is
> contextual. Therefore, I think "trust lists" or "trust registries" are
> perhaps a better language framing of what we are looking for an
> interoperable solution to.
>
> Thanks,
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> And then the school includes the accreditation vc in their student
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> On 15 Aug 2022, at 7:28 am, Kyano Kashi <kyanokashi2@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Manu,
>
> Forgive my ignorance, but couldn’t we simply have the American Bar
> Association issue VCs to the schools it wishes to accredit for issuing law
> VCs?
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> Best,
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> Kyano
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> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:19 PM Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> The topic of "lists of authorized issuers for certain types of
> credentials" has been floating around the VC community for a few years
> now. We don't seem to have hit a point where implementers and
> customers feel they absolutely need the feature, but there has been
> enough curiosity around it to perhaps have some exploratory technical
> discussions at some of the upcoming conferences.
>
> The basic concept here is: Can a verifier lean on established trust it
> has in some authority, such as an accreditation body, to get a list of
> issuers for particular types of credentials? To focus on a use case in
> education, how would the American Bar Association publish a list of
> all law schools that it has accredited to issue law degree VCs?
>
> The following paper calls for the exploration of the topic, starting
> at the upcoming RWoT in The Hague (end of September):
>
>
> https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot11-the-hague/blob/master/advance-readings/authorized-issuer-lists.md
>
> Thoughts, concerns, and identification of similar work, are all welcome.
>
> -- manu
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