- From: W3C CCG Chairs <w3c.ccg@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks to Adrian Gropper for scribing this week! The minutes for this week's Credentials CG telecon are now available: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2021-06-29 Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Credentials CG Telecon Minutes for 2021-06-29 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2021Jun/0275.html Topics: 1. Introductions 2. Announcements & Reminders 3. Update on Action Items 4. CCG 101 Survey Results 5. Open Co-chair Organizer: Wayne Chang and Heather Vescent Scribe: Adrian Gropper Present: Heather Vescent, Jeff Orgel, Victor, Charles E. Lehner [cel], Wayne Chang, Erica Connell, Mike Prorock, Manu Sporny, TallTed // Ted Thibodeau (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com), Kristina Moss Gudrun Gunnarsdottir (OET), Mahmoud Alkhraishi, Adrian Gropper, Blaž Podgorelec, Ryan Grant, Orie Steele, FNcc57821d532dc70d98c56002e89d6954, Kayode Ezike, Phil L (P1), Kristina Yasuda, David I. Lehn, Phil Archer, Charles E. Lehner, Mike Schwartz Audio: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2021-06-29/audio.ogg <victor> let's bring some noise)) <mahmoud> qq for later do we need to present+ after manu changed the bot? <mprorock> mahmoud - you should not have to anymore <manu_sporny> Mahmoud, you no longer need to present+ -- the bot does it for you. <manu_sporny> Long live our robot overlords! <heather_vescent> Join the CCG: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/join <heather_vescent> Minutes: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/ <jeffo-stl> Thx for FYI re: presemt+ Manu... <mahmoud> awesome thanks! Adrian Gropper is scribing. <mprorock> and we have lost heather <manu_sporny> No volunteers Topic: Introductions Adrian Gropper: Blaze: researcher at Graz Iunst Tech, - looking at possibilities for digital wallet Kristina Yasuda: Office of Ed tech US Dep't Edu - digital wallets and blockchains in education [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Erica Connell: Theater and film artist, learning about W3C - producing a podcast about DID and DID methods - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Heather Vescent: Please return and share podcast [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <heather_vescent> Announcements: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/announcements/ Topic: Announcements & Reminders <agropper> ... nothing on the announcements list - add to queue please Manu Sporny: Update on DID spec now in second CR - looks like we have enough implementations - call at 6PM to review - 2 weeks left and looking good - hoping to have it in a couple of months [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Phil Archer: T3 innovation ratified the charter for Learning and Employment Record - announcement of kickoff in July to be announced [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Topic: Update on Action Items https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22action%3A+review+next%22 Heather Vescent: Topic Action Items Update [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <heather_vescent> 194: https://github.com/w3c-ccg/community/issues/194 <agropper> ... check in on #194 <agropper> ... EIP signature - just a meter of setting up the repo and we can get started with the work item <phil_l_(p1)> The Learning and Employment Record Network (LERN) is part of the T3 Innovation Network of Networks initiative. https://www.t3networkhub.org/ Topic: CCG 101 Survey Results <agropper> Hear from Victor - active in CCG 101 from the start to help us understand how to use volunteer resources most effectively <agropper> ... 20-25 minutes timebox Adrian Gropper: Victor: Started in CCG 101 - am active in TOIP and governance - trying to understand who is active and what they think is important <agropper> ... by sending Google Forms important to send email directly - 10% of members responded <agropper> ... created a small presentation <mprorock> FYI - if you have chat open and screen share is not showing full screen properly, close and then reopen chat <mahmoud> not sure if me but theres tons of chopping <agropper> ... to find out who we are and how we can move the projects forward - majority joined in last three years - <heather_vescent> (Yes, the audio is a bit choppy for me too, but I can hear it) <mprorock> mahmoud - not just you - jitsi bandwidth can be rough <heather_vescent> (I just muted Adrian, so there is only audio coming off one channel) <heather_vescent> (audio has improved for me) <agropper> ... creating standards or developing content for promotion - the other important thin is that the majority is tech pros and many in executive positions - important because development can be divvied into what to develop vs. legwork / coding <agropper> ... the majority seem to be executives that decide what to develop - it's much more important to find people to do the development - "I think" <manu> This is really great data... <mprorock> manu +1 really insightful on what is actually going on from an active user standpoint <agropper> ... half of the people have a good idea of what they want to do development - not sure if that's a good conclusion - want feedback <agropper> ... see there's a need in active participation of gov officials - it's challenging to attract gov due to the specifics of restrictions on individuals in each country - mistrust is a problem across countries - hard to attract gov <agropper> ... next step is to ask "what kind of content?" - majority says short or medium length video or blog post - 700 words or 5-15 minute video <manu> I think it would be super helpful if we could get these written up as action items for the CCG... Manu Sporny: Can you say more about this, maybe put yourself on the queue? <agropper> ... now to thank Mike Prorock for the word clouds - we see specific tech - VC is most - then DID - Government popular - <mprorock> tech note - word clouds generated by frequency analysis of responses after stop words and and duplicates removed <agropper> ... discuss is VC, DID, wallet, - also JSON-LD and API very popular - also popular use case id VC in Education and next VC-HTTP API mentioned in half the answers <agropper> ... asked about general public and answers all over the place - probably 2 reasons: nothing harming and nothing benefits the general public - so why would the public care? - <agropper> ... do we need the general public to know and what would that mean to our work? Heather Vescent: TY Victor [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Manu Sporny: Appreciate Victor for doing this work - we have a data from a decent chunk of the community - aligns with Manu's gut feeling - TY Victor - wonder if we could get this out as a mailing - sending the general findings as slides and then maybe translate this into Action Items [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <agropper> ... use it as an opportunity to remind the community Adrian Gropper: Victor: Among people who answered many are willing to produce content once we decide what should be in the content Charles E. Lehner: Question about Slide 3 (membership years) - why the distribution [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Adrian Gropper: Victor: It's about the launch 2-3 years ago - probably Heather Vescent: Interesting how large group joined in the last year - may COVID - have been growing a lot - The year before had only one but can't say much - What was going on 2-3 years ago that added members - was it DID WG? [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <victor> last year bump might be due to the online education huge demand and therefore necessity to work on VCs for educaiton <agropper> .... of the people who took the survey, we had many 4-5 years. That bodes well to have both old and newer. It's a challenge to walk new people to become contributors - that's what 101 group is trying to do - understand how to contribute to the work items <agropper> ... the numbers show that we do have many new folks - need to provide a gentle path to becoming good contributors Adrian Gropper: Victor: I am not a developer. Background in education. One of the hardest things is to give newcomers very simple tasks. Responses speak to the need to attract new developers with not a lot of experience - if we can manage then it might help speed up the process - government has the power Heather Vescent: Asking work item owners and co-owners: What can you do to make your work item accessible to new (to the community) devs. - Are there tasks you can break down - give a soft landing or sandbox. [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Mike Schwartz: Traceability vocal with Orie - read me mirrors what devs expect - when we look at SSI or CCG items have their own language - need step by step - the Hallway Test: - what does this look like to you? - Vocab is a start [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Heather Vescent: Victor last words? Victor: Let's get Action Items for what's next - talk about it in 101 and present to the greater community - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Heather Vescent: Discuss on list as well. [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Topic: Open Co-chair Heather Vescent: Thank you Mike for self-nominating - Officially a 3-year term - once we get this filled we will discuss the terms - this is an official submission- EOD midnight this FRIDAY to finalize if nobody else shows up. [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Mike Schwartz: Thanks Heather. Background: Tech career. Security. Dealing with Data - search - and recently ML and applied. - Run measure.io analytics - the data we deal with is track and trace (eg DNA) needs chain of custody [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <agropper> ... Intro by Orie - doing more with VC in my day job - given we need CCG to deal with important topics Manu Sporny: +1 To Mike! - contributions to date have been fantastic - wondering if you have any particular initiative you want to push in CCG? [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Manu Sporny: +1 To getting better at verifiable testability in CCG -- proving interop. Mike Schwartz: Interested in traceability of physical goods and attribution on things that will impact environment - beyond that, interoperability and testability - want to extend that spect to the rprojects - also engaging in 101 to make sure they are actually are doing [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Manu Sporny: +1 To more effort into CCG 101 work -- it's the only way we're going to scale as a community. Heather Vescent: Othe comments for Mike or CCG items to consider [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Mike Prorock: +1 Automation where possible Manu Sporny: Request I have in general is the community has grown and my hope is we can figure out how to reduce the chairs workload - more automation - minutes transcription - [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] Manu Sporny: +1 To focus on stability -- that's good direction. Heather Vescent: Commenting - I think a lot of automation thanks to Manu and Kim - as chair, automation is a double-edge sword - 70% time often an error happens - constant updates break things - prefer more stable with less features - balance [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <agropper> ... still have issues with the minutes - need the process documented - for the chairs and everyone - caution against too much automation Manu Sporny: +1 To focus on stability as a general rule [scribe assist by Adrian Gropper] <mprorock> woot, on time! Adrian Gropper: TY: Victor and Mike - concluding today <victor> buy
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