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Re: This is a use case

From: Jeremy Townson <jeremy.townson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 15:24:39 +0100
Message-ID: <CAAic94Hy5=TtGRN7jg-Mv+o_Dgetx4H5N=sNpx1fiJrDtfvKvQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: George Artem <georgeartem@gmail.com>
Cc: Juan Caballero <caballerojuan@pm.me>, Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>, Public-Credentials <public-credentials@w3.org>
Of those 'human stories', surely the most alarming is:
*>> "0941361-1" "0941361-1" "COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH))" "1200"
"PFIZER\BIONTECH" "590" "Went to bed not feeling well. My husband came to
check on me approx. 12:30 am. He was unable to arouse me.[...]*

My god, will the vaccine leave no stone unturned?

Also intriguing
>> *Resident died suddenly and expectantly on 01/05/2021"*

Expecting what? Surely the epitome of optimism.



On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 14:48, George Artem <georgeartem@gmail.com> wrote:

> Respectfully, information submitted to VAERS is made under federal
> penalty, and VAERS data is corroborated by colleagues working on this same
> issue in Europe. The information IS unfortunately alarming, but we should
> not turn away from it.
>
> You're right, the smart people on this list signed up for VC technology
> discussions; and what prompted one of my few responses to this group was
> the continued promulgation of the very poor "vaccine" passport use-case,
> that's frankly draconian, divisive and a-moral. If we never have a
> conversation about ethics in technology then we will live in a world full
> of technology and devoid of ethics.
>
> My humble suggestion for this group would be to table any discussion of
> use cases surrounding the validation of mRNA injections and to collectively
> urge a period of pause and restraint until the facts are thoroughly
> understood and the case law on the subject is settled.
>
> Instead of an NPR article, I am including a raw sample of the human
> stories that have been reported to VAERS over the last six months in
> Massachusetts related to these injections to the attachments.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> George Artem
> JD Candidate, New England Law | Boston
> Master of Science Information Systems, University of Washington
> Executive Office of Health & Human Services - Commonwealth of Massachusetts
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:09 AM Juan Caballero <caballerojuan@pm.me>
> wrote:
>
>> Respectfully, George, I think we would do well to separate disagreements
>> happening on different levels:
>>
>> - VAERS is unverified data, and something of a scourge on public health
>> messaging.  A brief history of the database and how not to interpret its
>> contents can be found in an NPR story that aired yesterday:
>>
>> https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/14/1004757554/anti-vaccine-activists-use-a-federal-database-to-spread-fear-about-covid-vaccine
>>
>> - Whether or not specific mRNA therapies or mRNA therapies in general are
>> too green for primetime is something best debated between people far
>> smarter and specialized in their knowledge than me; I was an English
>> major.  More importantly, the CCG list did not sign up to debate it, they
>> signed up to debate VC technology and messaging.
>>
>> - Adrian's point is a good one, that identity binding is not a mandatory
>> ingredient in VC solutions that solve the specific document-authenticity
>> problem highlighted by Moses.
>>
>> - For people interested in discussing the Good Health Pass draft
>> proposal, Kaliya will be leading a session at tomorrow's DIF Interop WG at
>> 23CET, 14PT, 17ET, on a DIF recorded Zoom call [1]. The group working on it
>> has requested feedback by tomorrow, so people with opinions on the topic
>> should feel free to attend and contribute productively in any way they have
>> time for.  The report can be found here [2].
>>
>> Thanks,
>> __juan
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82475629186?pwd=a1RjenhHcEo0a0FKamdTdzVNaDNzUT09
>> .
>> [2]:
>> https://wiki.trustoverip.org/display/HOME/GHP+Blueprint+Public+Review+Process
>> On 6/15/2021 3:20 AM, George Artem wrote:
>>
>> Respectfully, take a look at the VAERS data and give the experimental
>> mRNA injection passport use case a rest.
>>
>> Politicization aside, the world should take a collective pause on
>> emergency use authorization of these untested gene therapies. Smart people
>> like yourselves should be urging restraint.
>>
>> Thank you for your consideration,
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>
>> <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> See:
>> https://www.wsj.com/articles/fake-covid-19-certificates-hit-airlines-which-now-have-to-police-them-11618330621
>>
>> Airlines are battling a scourge of passengers traveling with falsified
>> Covid-19 health certificates.
>>
>> The documents are often the Covid-19 test results required by many
>> countries on arrival. The International Air Transport Association industry
>> body says it has tracked fake certificates in multiple countries, from
>> France to Brazil, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Border control authorities
>> and police forces have also reported arrests of people selling documents in
>> the U.K., Spain, Indonesia and Zimbabwe, among others.
>>
>> The problem is hitting international flights more than domestic ones,
>> which typically don’t require certification at the moment. Airlines that
>> are more dependent on cross-border travel, particularly those operating in
>> Europe, are growing increasingly alarmed as they look to the summer, when
>> they still hope demand will start to return.
>>
>> The proliferation of fake health certificates is exposing a logistical
>> blind spot, as airlines rush to navigate post-pandemic travel standards and
>> retool their systems to ease compliance—and spur demand. Airlines say their
>> staff aren’t equipped to handle and police all the new health
>> certifications needed…
>>
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>
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