Re: Tim Berners-Lee: He Created the Web. Now He’s Out to Remake the Digital World.

Solid has fallen into the same trap as all first-generation people-centered
technologies of linking storage of personal information to control of
personal data. Yes, it's easier to control data about you if you also store
that data but the problem is that almost nobody cares about the data you
have in storage - they have their own copies of that data and their own
ways of monetizing it whether you have a Solid Pod or not.

I'm looking forward to scalable people-centered technologies where personal
data is controlled without having to be copied into a PDS. Proper
authorization standards like GNAP introduce a separation of concerns
between who has the data and who controls how it's used. If we understand
the case for end-to-end encryption, why would we insist that two of our
service providers must transfer data through my Pod as a way to share it?

I'm told by people who work on Solid that they could adopt authorization
standards to provide independent control over what's in my Pod. Yet they
haven't AFAIK. I would not trust Solid as being person-centric until they
provide me with standards-based authorization for access control to what is
in my Pod. Otherwise, they're just like Apple who controls access to my
health record stored on my iPhone based on opaque App Store policies and
proprietary app APIs.

Adrian

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:23 PM Michael Herman (Parallelspace) <
mwherman@parallelspace.net> wrote:

> There is already 3-4 years of sources of general information on Solid
> (e.g. Inrupt forums, Solid CG Specifications, Technical Report, YouTube
> videos, etc.).
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> In terms of inter-CG communication/discussions, I’m interested in
> Inrupt/Solid’s directions in terms of its adoption of:
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>    1. Decentralized Identity Models
>    2. Self-Sovereign Identity Models (a subset of the above)
>    3. Other points of potential intersection
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> Best regards,
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> Michael
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> *From:* Heather Vescent <heathervescent@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* January 14, 2021 9:54 AM
> *To:* W3C Credentials CG (Public List) <public-credentials@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Tim Berners-Lee: He Created the Web. Now He’s Out to
> Remake the Digital World.
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> All,
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> The CCG and Solid co-chairs are discussing coordinating introductory
> presentations from each group to each group in order to jump start
> collaboration -- this will likely happen in February.
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> CCG members: what questions on Solid would you like answered?
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> More details as they happen.
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> Cheers,
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> -Heather
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> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 1:27 AM Kishore Bhatia <kishore@affinidi.com>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for shedding some more light on this Michael and Dmitri, have been
> following Solid/Inrupt’s launch from community pods to ESS and very
> interested in convergence or parallels with Secure data storage!
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> Looking at Solid again in 2021 for VC compliant storage: encrypted data
> vault, maybe even Cloud-agents/identity-hub like components in Affinidi’s
> architecture, would be great to sync’up with you direct on the identity/VC
> relevant roadmap so far - will ping direct!
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> Cheers!
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> Kishore
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> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:39 AM Dmitri Zagidulin <dzagidulin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >  Is there anyone from the Solid project or Inrupt a member of CCG?
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> I'll add my name to that list as well -- I'm an active participant in the
> Solid project (am one of the core spec editors, implementer, etc) as well.
> And in general, try to bring Solid's perspective to various w3c groups I'm
> part of (including the Confidential Storage group).
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> --
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> Heather Vescent <http://www.heathervescent.com/>
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