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[MINUTES] W3C Call - 2020-02-24 12pm ET

From: W3C CCG Chairs <w3c.ccg@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:26:19 -0800 (PST)
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Thanks to Jim Goodell for scribing this week! The minutes
for this week's CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force telecon are now available:


Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes.
Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below).

CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force Telecon Minutes for 2020-02-24

  1. Introductions and Reintroductions
  2. What's inside the credential envelope?
  Kim Hamilton Duffy and Joe Andrieu and Christopher Allen
  Jim Goodell
  Simone Ravaoli, James Chartrand, Nate Otto, Jim Goodell, Adam 
  Lemmon, Greg Nadeau, Kim Hamilton Duffy, Steven Pattison, Juan 
  Caballero, Stuart Freeman, Greg Kidd, Alex Jackl

Good Morning everyone!
Simone Ravaoli: Good afternoon ;-)
Good afternoon! I am unable to connect through Linphone, any 
  otheer option?
Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/join
Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/accounts/request
James Chartrand: I am using onsip.com
Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/
Jim Goodell is scribing.
Thanks Jim- didn't want to volunteer because I wasn't sure what 
  was needed!
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Alias: said something
Juan Caballero: Sorry can't scribe today, bad connection!
Nate agreed to scribe next week

Topic: Introductions and Reintroductions

Alex Jackl introduced himself
Juan Caballero: https://www.uschamberfoundation.org/t3-innovation 
  <-- AJackL mentioned being involved in this cool effort I'd never 
  heard of until just now!
Juan Caballero: Also https://www.a4l.org/
Simone_Ravaioli has been working on standards across globe, with 
  IMS & PESC, fan of Open Badges
Chris Huston with eLumen co-chair CLR with IMS introduced himself
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Chris Houston (CLR/IMS) introducing himself
Greg Nadeau: 
Greg Nadeau talking about what goes inside the VC "envelope"

Topic: What's inside the credential envelope?

Slide 46 - put achievement (definition) on the outside of the 
  envelope, the assertion on the inside
Juan Caballero: Thanks for that!
Greg Kidd:  What badges does with DIDs is what CLR should do with 
  DIDs (and others?)
Kim Hamilton Duffy: CEDS acronym is "common edu data standard"?
Alex Jackl:  Beauty of having many work streams is that a lot of 
  work being done, and there is coordination leading to a universal 
Kim Hamilton Duffy: Paper from Nate and me about OB as VCs: 
Nate Otto:  VC envelope and CLR/OB look a but different but there 
  are ways of using it so that it can be compatible, e.g. 
  achievement with a rubric with different achievement levels, can 
  link achievement level from rubric
Juan Caballero: ^Hehe I was there! Didn
Juan Caballero: 'T understand much at the time, tho :D
Simone Ravaoli: +1 On Nate
Jim Goodell:  CEDS is US edu-supported group focusing on data 
  vocab, logical models [scribe assist by Kim Hamilton Duffy]
Kim Hamilton Duffy: ...Used for data at rest. doesn't get into 
  data transport side of standards
Kim Hamilton Duffy: ...Has stayed connected with other data 
  initiatives. U.S. and non-U.S.
Kim Hamilton Duffy: ...Can pull in improvements from different 
Kim Hamilton Duffy: ...Can provide translations "rosetta stone"
Jim Goodell:  For learner, wallet will need to support a range, 
  but for "issuers" there will be specific focuses. Work through 
  IEEE ILR happening will help [scribe assist by Kim Hamilton 
Greg Nadeau: 
Chris Houston: SOn got a competency-based report card (shown in 
  slide 2)
Chris Houston: SLide 3 shows JSON notation of the 
  competency-based report card assertion, would work inside the 
  assertion envelope we've been talking about
Chris Houston: Rubric-criterion labels and competencies are the 
Simone Ravaoli:  Can I add you to the q to give us your 
  high-level thoughts on where similar work is happening in europe? 
  (We'd like to ask you to lead a dedicated call to discuss 
  in-depth later) [scribe assist by Kim Hamilton Duffy]
Chris Houston: Uses OB mechanism for email / hashing
Simone Ravaoli: Sure
Chris Houston: Associations used t place the assertion or the 
  related achievement on a graph
Greg Kidd:  There are some things I disagree with (how to 
  approach similar solutions) It will not take months....we are 
  working out differences
Nate Otto:  Evolution of the CLR - candidate public final 
  (available for public viewing) - no one has signed up to be a 
  consumer implementation of CLR yet, 2 publisher implementations
Nate Otto:  IMS leadership expressed some interest for 
  compatibility to W3C VC, but not yet clear what that means...
Nate Otto:  We should look at actual examples and code to see 
  that it can work
Simone Ravaoli:  CEN standard in EU then EC put financing into 
  some ERASMOS projects...
Simone Ravaoli:  Now EUROpass project EUROpass digital credential 
  ecosystem EDCI
Kim Hamilton Duffy: I think/hope some of the T3 innovation 
  network pilots will exercise the receiving side
Simone Ravaoli: Slight corrections on the scribe:  CEN (not CEN), 
   Erasmus+ (not Erasmos)... thanks so much Jim :-)
Kim Hamilton Duffy: (In addition to other POCs discussed)
Alex Jackl:  This problem of not having people receiving the data 
  is a problem across the ecosystem, receiving is the hardest part, 
  effort not to creat a wallet that can hold the different forms of 
  data... then people ready to accept that data ....
Simone Ravaoli: Thanks all
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