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Re: rapid COVID-19 testing / Abbott NAVICA boarding pass

From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 23:13:28 -0400
Message-ID: <CANYRo8i=o5dgxKfDTKPREjHX5LjDL5NT=c2f5U6q1YKhZHzdQg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Wayne Chang <wyc@fastmail.fm>
Cc: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>
App, shmapp. This test should be made available over the counter and by
mail for anyone to do at home without the cost and risk of going to a
licensed professional. It’s like a pregnancy test without the pee. If the
employer or gatekeeper wants to challenge your voluntary assertion they can
give you a retest on the spot and make you wait 15 minutes. If you test
positive and claimed you had tested negative earlier that day, shame on you!

The “within 7 days of symptom onset” is mildly interesting. It's there just
to make the accuracy of the test look as good as possible. Ok. Gatekeepers
already ask about symptom onset every day. The NAVICA app may not replace
that. We need everyone to track their symptoms, test regularly, and report
both in some privacy preserving way. Think what this data would mean for
schools, for example and for local public health policy. We need to treat
these symptom reports and tests as a routine part of every person's
non-proprietary health record. Abbott is making enough money to be
sponsoring standards-based open source health records like HIE of One
Trustee https://hieofone.com/ instead of asking people to install another
random walled garden app. I have no problem with pharmas to making money
being pharmas. Going into data brokerage is unnecessary greed.

I've attached the short Provider Fact Sheet (also at
. Well worth reading. Ask yourself, is all of the extra risk and huge
expense of professional administration worth whatever increment in quality
of results might result?

- Adrian

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:10 PM Wayne Chang <wyc@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Wanted to add a link to this issue that popped up today, which is very
> related to this topic
> “Service Endpoints in the DID Doc might be an anti-pattern”
> https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/382
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Heather Vescent wrote:
> Oooh Wayne, that looks like a great piece by IETF. Thanks for sharing.
> -H
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 6:45 AM Wayne Chang <wyc@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Thanks for the share Ryan! Definitely these are trends we're seeing
> deployed across the world happening whether we like it or not, and each
> deployment comes with its own risks and benefits profile. The benefits are
> clear, in that we can open up our economies, return towards normalcy, and
> stop living in fear. However, the risks especially to privacy are also
> important to highlight as you allude to, and in this did-core GitHub issue,
> Adrian Gropper has done some work summarizing some important concerns
> (including from the EFF) and also proposing a solution path:
> https://github.com/w3c/did-core/issues/370
> Especially concerning to me are issues with "habituation to present strong
> credentials" that lower the barrier to entry for those on the advantaged
> side of asymmetric power dynamics asking "papers please". If you keep all
> your verifiable credentials in a way presentable anywhere and to anyone
> from your phone, how does it affect the adoption, frequency, and
> intrusiveness of information checkpoints?
> P.S. hot off the press, "RFC8890: The Internet is for End Users":
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8890
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Ryan Grant wrote:
> > On the plus side, cheap fast tests are coming.  On the minus side,
> > they made an app that you will be forced to use.
> >
> >   https://www.abbott.com/BinaxNOW-Test-NAVICA-App.html
> >
> >     [...manufacturing capacity soon to be:] 50 million tests a month
> >
> >     We're pairing this $5, 15-minute, easy-to-use test with a mobile
> >     app, called NAVICA, which works like a secure digital "boarding
> >     pass" that can be scanned to enter organizations and other places
> >     where people gather.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/white-house-announces-deal-to-provide-150-million-rapid-coronavirus-tests/2020/08/27/cb3c4eba-e8ab-11ea-970a-64c73a1c2392_story.html
> >
> >     "White House announces deal to provide 150 million rapid
> >     coronavirus tests"
> >
> >
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