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- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks to Laura Jaurequi for scribing this week! The minutes for this week's CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force telecon are now available: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-08-24-vc-education Full text of the discussion follows for W3C archival purposes. Audio from the meeting is available as well (link provided below). ---------------------------------------------------------------- CCG Verifiable Credentials for Education Task Force Telecon Minutes for 2020-08-24 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2020Aug/0095.html Topics: 1. Introductions & Reintroductions 2. Universal Wallet 3. Modeling Educational VCs Organizer: Kim Hamilton Duffy and Heather Vescent and Wayne Chang Scribe: Laura Jaurequi Present: Juan Caballero, Anthony Camilleri, Stuart Freeman, Laura Jaurequi, James Chartrand, Jacksohne, Jim Goodell, Orie Steele, Adrian Gropper, Chris Winczewski, Jim Kelly, Kim Hamilton Duffy, David Ward, Simone Ravaoli, Adam Lemmon, Nate Otto, Phil Long, Tzviya Siegman, Phil_Barker Audio: https://w3c-ccg.github.io/meetings/2020-08-24/audio.ogg Good morning! Juan Caballero: Now we're curious what the F stands for Juan Caballero: Good evening from Berlin! Anthony Camilleri: Haha - Fisher. I just didn't like all the underscores Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-credentials/2020Aug/0095.html Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/join Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/accounts/request Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/ Kim Hamilton Duffy: Says something [scribe assist by Kim Hamilton Duffy] Laura Jaurequi is scribing. Anthony Camilleri: I always thought the text summaries were bot-written.... :$ ... will volunteer for scribe next time Topic: Introductions & Reintroductions Hello, all. I Kim Hamilton Duffy: Philbarker Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1ONiXL_1GvEd6EBiosH50mt5rw-GVySywVwFBQ2lCgzE/edit?usp=sharing Hello. I'm having problmes with Linphone. I'm a member of Trust Over IP Internet of Education Task Force. I'll join chat for now Kim Hamilton Duffy: Moving on to universal wallet Topic: Universal Wallet Kim Hamilton Duffy: Universal wallet proposes a data model interface (api) -- experimental implementation ...advantages: covered by w3c license agreement; Orie Steele: +1 To experimental implementation -- title should include interop and experimental as it is transitioned to the w3c Kim Hamilton Duffy: Wallet is like an SDK or api -- doesn't have to be used; can be applied to multiple use cases and interoperability ...can use spec without opensource implementation ...ip protected as well Orie Steele: Yes, we probably should have named the spec, "Universal-Wallet-Interop-Spec" and the sample implementation "Experimental Universal Wallet Implementation", even if the software package does not contain the word "experimental". ...common for proposals to be discussed in DIF and IEEE ...credential exchange spec is in draft ...secure data store relevant to wallet storage ...Learning economy major contributor and open wallet architecture Jacksohne: Speaking ...Learning economy building universal wallet out of necessity for interacting with partners Orie Steele: Some more "experimental ui for the experimental wallet" here: https://material-did.com/?path=/story/universal-wallet-wallet-cards--unlocked :) Kim Hamilton Duffy: Need code owner -- will be Nathan and T?... Juan Caballero: I am here Juan Caballero: Agenda is here Juan Caballero: https://github.com/decentralized-identity/interoperability/blob/master/agenda.md ...get involved via ccg, github, etc. Also get involved in DIF; send questions to Kim Juan Caballero: If anyone wants to propose an agenda item for a future DIF interop meeting or email me directly at communication at identity.foundation about it Adrian Gropper: What makes this a "learner" wallet? Kim Hamilton Duffy: Add yourself to the queue if you have strong objections to adding experimental implementation Orie Steele: Asking about implementing a software implementation along side the spec? Should we move Transmute code to CCG? Kim Hamilton Duffy: Speak up if you have concerns ...kim is supportive of experimental implementation -- very helpful to demonstrate POC; ...experimental implementation doesn't have to be used... ...we want open source and open implementation available to all learners ...not tied to a specific wallet vendor; interacts with many identity proof mechanisms Adrian Gropper: I imagine a learner wallet is a customized version of a wallet that supports the "universal-wallet-interop-spec", which MAY use the "experimental-universal-wallet" [scribe assist by Orie Steele] Adrian Gropper: Question -- what makes this a learner wallet vs. just a wallet Kim Hamilton Duffy: Learning wallet a certain kind of universal wallet -- themed in different ways specific to learners Orrie:types of industry specific wallets are conformant with standard but support open interop standards? Adrian Gropper: Will there be anything different than the data model between patient walled and universal wallet? Orrie: speculating about differences... Kim Hamilton Duffy: Interesting that this has a data model and interoperable library / interface ...in addition differing credentials ... Orie Steele: I consider defining abstract interfaces data model work :) but thats just my personal opinion. there have been concerns raised about the "interfaces" and if they can be generic enough to be supportive of all formats Kim Hamilton Duffy: Modeling verifiable credentials next Thank you. dropping for remainder. Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pt-VNnjoYgl23Mlu0Tjyax5RgANPBfDijERz0SNYfSo/edit?ts=5f387d19#heading=h.2fde5vhrnfjo Topic: Modeling Educational VCs Sry my line is keep dropping Kim Hamilton Duffy: Document has several working examples; action items moved to a specific section ...action item-- support xml serialization focus Orie Steele: Interested to see the XML serialization of VCs added to the W3C VC Data Model. ...jason too ..."has achieved" is being adopted ...better for broader types of achievements ...use of pdf's for the wrapper? follow up work item... Orie Steele: I have done experiments embedding stuff in PDFs... CBOR-LD can help. ...issues in document -- working example 1 Kim Hamilton Duffy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pt-VNnjoYgl23Mlu0Tjyax5RgANPBfDijERz0SNYfSo/edit?ts=5f387d19#heading=h.wszlu0mk5nza ...ILR wrapper is referring to criteria in alignment framework -- ...ctid supports versioning -- is advantage Orie Steele: We should consider cannonical URLs for credential Ids, that support CTID, but also other formats Nate Otto: Ctid = identifier for a registry provider; basically a UID; doesn't think this serves all of the needs; alternate identifier... Simone Ravaoli: +1 To Orie and Nate Phil Long: +1 For Ori's suggestion Orrie: suggests ctid as an argument vs URL Nate Otto: +1 To Orie's proposal: It is nice to have a canonical URL identifier that when fetched can reveal more information about the credential definition that is the canonical representation of the credential. Tzviya Siegman: Agrees with orrie about keeping it separate Nate Otto: (I could describe OB's approach to version identification if somebody wants to q me for it https://openbadgespec.org/#version ) Kim Hamilton Duffy: Avantage is assigned to resource Anthony Camilleri: We have quite a bit we would like to contribute to this discussion. the appropriate thing is to just comment the doc extensively? Nate Otto: Open badges use description -- does not need to know about versioning but needs badge class Phil_Barker: On "resource" in ctid: Credential Engine uses ctids on Learning Opportunities and Assessments as well as Credentials ...url badge class can be the latest version or defined ...version can define the type of credential Orie Steele: Yep, big +1 to being careful about forcing folks to worry about versioning if they don't need to. Nate Otto: Where are we at with vocabulary "has achieved"? Orie Steele: Schema.org will take PRs :) Kim Hamilton Duffy: Ccg can be temporary landing place ...could also be schema.org Phil_Barker: Is this relevant https://schema.org/hasCredential Orie Steele: Schema.org has the benefit of helping align with SEO, which might be favorable, for reputation driving credentials Orie Steele: Yep, +1 to bucketing in CCG and preparing to register a batch to schema.org Tzviya Siegman: If more than one term in shema.org we should batch terms... Anthony Camilleri: Not sure the super-personal data in credentials necessarily aligns with schema.org public data prinicples.... Juan Caballero: Thx all!
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