Re: Different Verifiable Credential protocols? (was: Re: Please vote to approve/disapprove the new charter)

+1 If you want to see a demo of a progressive web application, which can be
installed on your mobile home screen, works offline, and uses a camera to
scan QR Codes, and can sign and verify see:

I've been experimenting with using service workers to intercept requests
for webkms, so that webkms can be run fully in browser, with software
isolation for keys... it's totally hacky, but gives you an idea of just how
powerful PWAs can be:

And here is a P2P implementation of the Game of Go, built with OrbitDB /
IPFS / WebRTC...

Using Web RTC Rendezvous servers are particularly interesting to consider
wrt VCs / DIDs... because you can show up on a web page (as is the case
with the go demo), announce yourself as an identifier, and then
immediately switch to e2e encrypted communication between peers... I don't
have a demo of that with dids, but it's on my weekend project list for a
couple months...


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:06 AM Manu Sporny <>

> On 4/10/20 10:31 AM, Daniel Hardman wrote:
> > Should we understand by this that presenting credentials via QR code,
> > via BlueTooth/NFC, via sneakernet, and so forth is out of scope?
> I'll note that Web-browsers can get access to the camera phone and scan
> QR Codes:
> and Web Bluetooth is released in many of the latest/popular browsers:
> ... and WebNFC just went into Origin trials in Chrome:
> There continues to be confusion around the colloquial use of the word
> "Web", which among developers, is mired in the historical protocol that
> spawned the Web -- HTTP. The colloquial use is often outdated and wrong.
> The W3C is about the "Web Platform", which is not limited to HTTP.
> Wikipedia has a decent definition here:
> ... but here are the other protocols that are not HTTP that are viewed
> as being part of the Web platform:
> * TLS
> * Geolocation (and by extension, the Global Positioning System,
>   protocols and data formats)
> * Web Sockets (which are not HTTP!)
> * Web Of Things (IoT, CoAP, etc.)
> * WebRTC (and a whole bunch of IETF specs on signalling
>   and media encoding/transmission protocols)
> * Web Bluetooth (Bluetooth and its data formats and protocols)
> * NFC (again, data formats and protocols)
> * Media Capture API (audio and video formats and protocols)
> The W3C is not solely about HTTP, and you learn that pretty quickly when
> you go to a W3C Technical Plenary, or participate in various standards
> groups at W3C. I understand that it's difficult for many to participate
> in that way. Fundamentally, the Web Platform is a bridging technology,
> connecting all of these disparate data formats and protocols into a
> cohesive application development environment.
> So communication of Verifiable Credentials over NFC, Bluetooth, WebRTC,
> Web Sockets, QR Codes... IMHO, all very much in scope.
> -- manu
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