RE: International identity data standards?

Awesome Daniel,

It’s remarkably fine-grained.  Every time you zoom in for more detail, you get a new DID… (a new DID for every 3 square meters)…

My carport: https://w3w.co/galloped.springtime.reward

(aka did:w3w.co: galloped.springtime.reward)

The driveway into my yard: https://w3w.co/disconcertingly.newsstands.harsh

(aka did:w3w.co: disconcertingly.newsstands.harsh)

NOTE: Click on Satellite View near the top-left corner of the page.

I assume the lines are on the 3-meter grid.



From: Daniel Hardman <daniel.hardman@evernym.com>
Sent: August 28, 2019 10:59 AM
To: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
Subject: Re: International identity data standards?

This is not an international standard, but I couldn't resist mentioning it since the subject of long, unstructured addresses in India and China came up. Have a look at https://what3words.com<https://what3words.com/> -- a 3 word address for every 3-meter square on the earth's surface. In places where the existing postal service works well, this isn't that compelling--but in a wilderness with no roads, or in a crowded ghetto somewhere, with inconsistent street addresses, this is a remarkable way to tell an ambulance how to find you. There's a TED talk about it.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 2:16 PM Moses Ma <moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com<mailto:moses.ma@futurelabconsulting.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

FYI, my company is working with the UPU, a UN agency that handles inter-postal operator collaborations, and they have expressed interest in DIDs and VCs. I can't say more until all the approvals are in place (compliance for intergovernmental agencies is quite complex), but there are international postal addressing standards in place, such as the S42 standard<http://www.upu.int/en/activities/addressing/s42-standard.html> for physical addressing. There is also work ongoing - like the UPU's S68 and DeutschePost's POSTIDENT standards - that propose international standards for identity and trust data.

I'll be able to talk more about all of this shortly, which will likely have a significant impact on the DID initiative. There are a lot of moving parts.

Anyway, I can talk some about this effort off the record during the Prague workshop.

Moses


On 8/26/19 11:56 PM, MXS Insights wrote:
If it is specifically mailing address standards, I have contacts at Pitney Bowes (having worked there for 20+ years).  They have been doing global mailing address hygiene for 40+ years.

I am happy to reach out to find someone to connect here if there is a point of contact I can connect them to.

Michael Shea.


On Aug 27, 2019, at 7:10 AM, Ian Smith <ian@vidicode.pro<mailto:ian@vidicode.pro>> wrote:

I don't think ldap proposed or Canadian standards are at all appropriate for international addresses. Alibaba's enlightened but not progressive approach was to allow several thousand characters and no formatting restrictions to allow people to write their address. A typical mailing address in India and China is around 30 to 100 words.

The ISO has a series of standards on how the various character sets can be transcribed to printable characters.

Google is probably the forerunner in displaying addresses, but they do things that are hard for the rest of us to mimic. A few minutes looking at Google maps in Africa and Bangladesh should be fairly impressive.

Is there additional progress supporting unicode-16 in ldap standards?

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 10:53 PM =Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@evernym.com<mailto:drummond.reed@evernym.com>> wrote:
Love it, Anil. Sounds like a job for...Verifiable Credentials!

=Drummond

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:38 AM John, Anil <anil.john@hq.dhs.gov<mailto:anil.john@hq.dhs.gov>> wrote:
Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;   : -)

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-          Anil

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From: Liam McCarty <liam@unumid.org<mailto:liam@unumid.org>>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 3:26 PM
To: public-vc-comments@w3.org<mailto:public-vc-comments@w3.org>; public-credentials@w3.org<mailto:public-credentials@w3.org>
Subject: International identity data standards?

Hi all,

Is there work being done to create international standards for identity data? For example, it would clearly be valuable to have standards for common data points like name, address, phone number, etc. If not that, it'd be helpful to at least have standardized mappings between different regional formats.

I've done some preliminary research and discovered groups like the NIEM (National Information Exchange Model, which is U.S.-based) and UPU (Universal Postal Union), but not anything more comprehensive. If international standards already exist, could someone point me in the right direction?

If not, creating international identity data standards seems like a natural extension of the work on DIDs and VCs. Would love to help kickstart that if people would find it useful.

Liam McCarty
Co-Founder of ePluribus<https://epluribus.io/>, Unum ID<https://unumid.org/>
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