Re: Dial in issues

FWIW, I have had no problem using Sip/Linphone calling in once I set it up.
Zoom is also great. More importantly though, is easy documentation of the
process.

-H

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Andrew Hughes <andrewhughes3000@gmail.com>
wrote:

> For what it’s worth, I support improving the current system.
>
> Having managed many work groups, I know that relying on humans to do every
> task in a timely manner to finish documenting a call is problematic. More
> automation == better documentation.
>
> I love zoom too but have also put in the effort to get a free SIP client
> to work (to free up the POTS lines for others).
>
> Note also that for those who can or want to pay, there are commercial SIP
> solutions available to help people connect to the SIP call.
>
> If digital bazaar is able to increase inbound connections it might solve
> things.
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:27 PM Pelle Braendgaard <
> pelle.braendgaard@consensys.net> wrote:
>
>> Manu
>> I understand the purpose of this system you’ve built.
>>
>> However if it causes major problems connecting for people it’s a problem.
>>
>> Personally it is difficult to do. I’m also international so just dialing
>> in is not always convenient.
>>
>> I believe in using the technology that is most inclusive which isn’t
>> necessarily the tech that is most “open”.
>>
>> Very often us technologists, in particular in the blockchain and/or open
>> standards space, get enamored with the perfect idealistic technology.
>>
>> Yet in reality there are often major issues such as UX, cost and quality
>> that break this idealistic technology and actively stops people from using
>> it.
>>
>> If more people are able to join using zoom, let’s do zoom.
>>
>> Pelle
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 20:38 Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/14/2018 01:16 PM, Christopher Allen wrote:
>>> > it isn’t automated, but if you remember to turn it on and off, Zoom
>>> > emails you in minutes with a download link
>>>
>>> This is the reason it typically fails. It requires a human to remember
>>> and intervene to start the recording and then again to upload it so that
>>> the rest of us have access to it.
>>>
>>> The current system we have ensures (as in it's fully automated) that at
>>> least the raw IRC log and the raw audio are recorded and archived so we
>>> can all get to it.
>>>
>>> The other gotcha is that if we transition to Zoom, someone will have to
>>> manually copy the IRC log to git or rewrite the software to do that
>>> since the archival of the IRC logs are triggered off of the first caller
>>> into the phone system and the last caller to leave the phone system.
>>>
>>> There is also the benefit of people on the IRC channel being able to ask
>>> the voipbot for the SIP and dial in number for the bridge.
>>>
>>> What ends up typically happening is that people remember the first
>>> several times, and then feel like it's a burden, don't understand why we
>>> record audio, and they stop doing it.
>>>
>>> We've asked our upstream provider if they can up the simultaneous
>>> inbound call limit from 15 phone-based callers to 50 simultaneous
>>> phone-based callers.
>>>
>>> -- manu
>>>
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>>> http://manu.sporny.org/2017/w3c-web-payments/
>>>
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