- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 10:40:40 +0000
- To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>, W3C Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok1sXutAWrFHuzxeVjazYVUYrXhe0CA5Wn6VAjPtTLv-eg@mail.gmail.com>
Not withstanding my admiration for what you have done; I look forward to the analysis provided by others and am happy to be aware of it. ;) On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 9:38 pm Anders Rundgren, < anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2017-01-27 11:17, Timothy Holborn wrote: > > > Nb: if you find a priority date prior to Manu / Dave, that would be > v.interesting. > > I did not invent JSON > I did not invent JSON-LD > I did not invent Name spaces > I did not invent HTTP > I did not invent WebSocket > I did not invent Digital signatures > I did not invent A single cryptographic method > I did not invent "@context" > > > So what's the [possible] contribution then? > > It is a collection of [what I consider] useful stuff. > Most "inventions" are of that kind. > > However, signed JavaScript objects (which is a part of the underpinnings > of YASMIN), using the built-in JSON parser/serializer for normalizing, in > my opinion qualifies as a "real" invention: > > https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/security/jcs.html#ECMAScript_Compatibility_Mode > > Note: I have no IPR claims at all. My worst fear is that some other party > may have such. > > Anders > > > > > I wish some priority dates of my own work were earlier. Genius is > unique ;) > > > > On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 9:11 pm Timothy Holborn, < > timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > I respect your opinions and contributions; yet in this case my view > is, meh. Not well though out. It may develop well, but that wouldn't be > progress imho. > > > > > > On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 9:09 pm Anders Rundgren, < > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > On 2017-01-27 10:58, Timothy Holborn wrote: > > > The @context makes it RDF as far as I'm aware? > > > > I indeed borrowed the actual name "@context" from JSON-LD but it > is in turn a concept already existing in XML (name space). > > I would have got the same result if I have called it "@ns" since > on the JSON level it is just a property. > > > > > > > Non quantum restistant crypto is either stupid or > intentional. Given how society finds things, who knows. > > > > I'm not a cryptographer so I only use what these guys have made > available for general usage and is supported by languages and platforms. > > There are folks working with next generation schemes and I (and > most other people) have to rely on these developments. > > > > Note that the posting was about REST, or more correct, a > replacement for REST. > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 8:52 pm Anders Rundgren, < > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> > <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto: > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > > > On 2017-01-27 10:12, Timothy Holborn wrote: > > > > Alongside stupid: > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_curve_cryptography#Quantum_computing_attacks > > > > > > You claim that this is a [very?] bad idea and/or that it > is already done, right? > > > > > > Well... > > > > > > Elliptic curves is the current NIST standard for > asymmetric cryptography. It will (in due time) be replaced by something > else which hopefully be a simple upgrade of existing systems including > YASMIN. > > > > > > YASMIN is not JSON-LD but it could host JSON-LD including > signed JSON-LD. > > > > > > WebSocket has nothing to do with RDF or JSON, it is this > context primarily a challenger to REST and HTTP. > > > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 8:08 pm Timothy Holborn, < > timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com> <mailto: > timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>> <mailto: > timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com> <mailto: > timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Looks like RDF[4] dressed up to look like a new > opportunity. > > > > > > > > [4] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON-LD > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri., 27 Jan. 2017, 7:44 pm Anders Rundgren, < > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> > <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto: > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>> <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com > <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> <mailto: > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com <mailto:anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>>>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > WebSocket [1] is claimed to be the most > efficient communication method for interactive Web applications. > > > > > > > > REST [2] is essentially incompatible with > WebSocket although some people try to merge them. > > > > That's IMO fairly pointless, since they are > building on different concepts. > > > > > > > > YASMIN [3], OTOH was *designed from scratch* to > support both event-based communication like WebSocket and postMessage(), as > well as traditional request/response schemes. > > > > > > > > Anders > > > > > > > > 1] https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6455.txt > > > > > > > > 2] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_state_transfer > > > > > https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/web/REST-in-peace.html > > > > > > > > 3] > https://cyberphone.github.io/doc/web/yasmin.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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