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Identity (was: Re: SAMPLE ballot for terminology vote)

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 04:14:12 +0000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok23LZqhaTquLxmkCkt5Zson7hd9zCAuKtOLxOwRU4aJBw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
With regard to the Identity.  i've got two points.  one is a way of
thinking about it, the other is a suggested term 'entity' which is less
important than the way of thinking about how to label this data container /

If we agree that legal entities are responsible for agents, whether they've
been issued to machines or otherwise, then we've got incorporated legal
entities and natural legal entities - i'm not sure if their are any others?
 what about countries? I figure the controller would still be a legal
entity where applied to the notion of 'actor'

A.I. and other smart machines may in-turn become actors, but they're not
legally responsible.

So therefore; i'm thinking the term 'Entity' as apposed to 'identity'.

We can't really independently provide 'identity' to humans, the foundation
layer actors of any systems produced.  I think we are working on that - but
it's still an unsolved problem for WWW/Linked-Data/Web 3.0.

TimBL / Vint Cerf / Others are talking about that kinda thing now:

Credentials relates specifically to the issuance of a verified claim - that
is - something that an entity or coordinated group of entities (say,
employee's within a company) says about another entity.

the 'entity' concept is therefore considered as a legal short-hand method
for denoting 'legal entity', which in-turn means if the 'identity' goes
astray, we're not misappropriating the rights of person - but rather - some
'thing' that is clearly denoted as an 'entity' for which it pertains to a
particular legal entity (inferring ownership / property rights).



On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 at 11:58 Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> The SAMPLE ballot for the upcoming terminology vote can be found here
> (do not vote, it won't be counted!):
> https://www.opavote.com/vote/6609369386975232
> Did I miss any of the terminology options that were put forward as
> choices that should be in the poll?
> This will be an Instant Run Off vote based on ranked choice. This means
> that you just order the items by your personal preference with the most
> desired option at the top and the least desired option at the bottom.
> The vote will open this Friday and close the following Wednesday.
> Apologies for the short poll duration, but we're on a tight schedule. My
> hope is that we get early voters on Friday, a few more over the weekend,
> and catch anyone that missed the first announcement on the Tuesday call.
> We'll close Wednesday, which will give the editors two business days to
> clean up all of the documents before asking the Web Payments IG to start
> reviewing the documents on the 20th of June.
> Please ensure that you're okay with the sample poll above because once
> the polls open on Friday, that's it for this round of terminology
> discussion/voting.
> -- manu
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> JSON-LD Best Practice: Context Caching
> https://manu.sporny.org/2016/json-ld-context-caching/
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