- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 06:21:22 +0000
- To: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
- Cc: Credentials Community Group <public-credentials@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok0bLumNy+14Hc=UJfgBNa3e3dXPqOcE2hsSqkAxSTuZOA@mail.gmail.com>
Looking for stats about the world as it pertains to internet access and literacy. Seems important given the scope of verifiable claims and socio-economic participation. On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 13:49 Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote: > Whilst i've written a long-response (as i have the habit of doing from > time to time) the summary of it, is that in-order to deal with some of the > emerging issues brought about by the implementation of verifiable claims, > no-matter who is in the room when the decisions are made, perhaps we should > engage those who are stakeholders in it. > > I've tried looking at an array of social frameworks to do so, it seems the > interest pertains to economic use not social considerations. > > I have strong views, but as with everyone - i am limited by what i can do > based on how my 'resume' is perceived by others and how that in-turn > provides me an opportunity to economically participate in society. The > influence of economic participation indeed impacts life and the quality of > life afforded to persons. > > So, it made sense to me that we should think about setting-up an > opportunity to discuss the sorts of issues and functionality frameworks > being used by people in industries who would never have participated in W3C > before let alone have knowledge of what an ontology is... > > Support and contributions welcome :) Perhaps privately message me your > google-docs address? > > Tim.H > > On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 at 11:36 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I certainly agree this privacy of information is important. Good point. > > I wanted to add that I found a link to a resume creator called > discover-me-semantically > https://github.com/robstewart57/discover-me-semantically . I'm not > sure why it is not generating an RDF file yet. It's 4 years old. > SerenA does not resolve. > -Brent Shambaugh > > GitHub: https://github.com/bshambaugh > Website: http://bshambaugh.org/ > LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-shambaugh-9b91259 > Skype: brent.shambaugh > Twitter: https://twitter.com/Brent_Shambaugh > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net> > wrote: > > On 12/3/16 4:09 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote: > >> > >> http signatures / credentials / verifiable claims, rdf, schemaorg, > >> probably an array of other lod-cloud stuff... > >> > >> Some of the types of things that are known to relate to 'HR files' (or > >> Resumes), whilst differing based on the industry in which they're > >> used; include, > >> > >> IDENTITY > >> > >> BIRTH INFORMATION > >> > >> CITIZENSHIP > >> ....etc. > > > > > > Wow, that's a comprehensive list — it's almost everything that anyone > could > > ever know about anybody. :-) > > > > Agreed that it would make an interesting domain for resumés. > > > > And agreed that employers who would like to see a comprehensive and > > verifiable resumé might be a group that could become interested in > > Verifiable Claims, because such a complete resumé would be important in > > making effective hiring decisions. > > > > And at a quick scan through, my guess, for what it's worth, is that > probably > > all of it could be coded as part of Verifiable Claims, as long as there > > would be an Issuer available for all the parts. > > > > But also: seeing the size of the list brings up the other side of the > coin > > too: privacy. Especially the recent news that the Soviet Union is > bringing > > in Chinese technology to create a 'safe' Internet, and of course combined > > with all the Snowden-related revelations about our own governments,— and > not > > to forget the every-day tracking by Google, Facebook, and everybody else > > that amounts to outright stalking — I can't help realizing that we need > an > > *iron-clad* ability to maintain privacy of this information. > > > > Not the individual pieces — your past employers know how you worked > there, > > the Birth Registry people know when you were born, the Tax people know > how > > much tax you paid, your Facebook friends know what kind of a sh*t you are > > ;-); and so on. There's no getting around all those things. > > > > But the honey-pot. The collection of all of it. The Resumé, especially if > > created to this depth of detail...is something that would be very > attractive > > to those other people I mentioned. > > > > Steven Rowat > > > > > > > > > > > >> VISA INFORMATION > >> > >> TAX NUMBERS > >> > >> BANKING DETAILS > >> > >> EDUCATION > >> > >> QUALIFICATIONS > >> > >> LICENSES > >> > >> CLEARANCES > >> > >> ACCREDITATIONS > >> > >> HONOURS > >> > >> AWARDS > >> > >> LANGUAGE COMPETENCIES > >> > >> WORK HISTORY > >> > >> PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIPS > >> > >> PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS > >> > >> INVESTMENTS > >> > >> PSYCHOLOGICAL ATTRIBUTES > >> > >> MEDICAL TESTS > >> > >> BIOMETRIC RECORDS > >> > >> MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY > >> > >> DISABILITIES > >> > >> INSURANCES > >> > >> VEHICLE INFORMATION > >> > >> FAMILY INFORMATION > >> > >> NEXT OF KIN > >> > >> PERFORMANCE ANALYSIS > >> > >> PATENTS & INVENTIONS > >> > >> PUBLICATIONS > >> > >> PROJECT INFORMATION > >> > >> REFERENCES > >> > >> SICKNESS RECORDS > >> > >> CRIMINAL RECORD > >> > >> COURT HISTORY > >> > >> SOCIAL NETWORK ANALYTICS > >> > >> > >> > >> This is only a small extract of a bigger document i'm still drafting > >> in google docs. I think it'll be most interesting to hear from > >> experts in different fields about how the web is changing their > >> business, the HR policies, education and training, insurance, workers > >> unions, etc... I imagine we may be able to have a conversation that > >> brings many who wouldn't ordinarily be involved with W3C works > >> together to talk about the requirements for our modernising economy. > >> > >> Still WIP. (work in progress) > >> > >> Tim.H > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 at 15:39 Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com > >> <mailto:brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Tim, > >> > >> You got my mind going... > >> > >> Are you starting with something like hResume? Perhaps with org and > >> FOAF? Is fine grained skills matching an eventual TODO? > >> > >> http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 2, 2016, at 2:13 AM, Timothy Holborn > >> <timothy.holborn@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.holborn@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >> > >>> I'm working on a conference concept for www2017[1] that is > >>> currently focused upon the development of engagement by way of > >>> considering the role of Linked-Data and Verifiable claims as > >>> they're asserted for a resume. > >>> > >>> This in-turn is leading to more consideration about the future > >>> of a machine-readable resume both for getting the job you have > >>> in addition to being considered for the next job you might have > >>> - this this in-turn is indeed a simplification. > >>> > >>> I started-out thinking about the implications of credentials > >>> simply within the domain of education; but expanded it to resume. > >>> > >>> I believe this may be a topic that can be discussed over many > >>> session times, introducing an array of organisations who had > >>> never considered participating in W3C - to consider the merits > >>> of doing so, > >>> > >>> and in-turn provide a little more context for those of us who > >>> have been working on the projects that are implicated in this > >>> type of concept (ie: digital resume format) and thereafter, i'm > >>> interested to know who might be interested in getting involved > >>> in drafting the documents with me. > >>> > >>> Kind Regards, > >>> > >>> Timothy Holborn. > >>> skype: sailing_digital > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] http://www.www2017.com.au/ > >> > >> > > > >
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