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Re: to recycle old and inactive CG (Community I/O) or to propose new one (Collaborative Economy)?

From: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:22:12 +0200
Message-ID: <55E0A6D4.7010408@wwelves.org>
To: Lynn Foster <foster.j.lynn@gmail.com>, Daniel Harris <daniel@kendra.org.uk>
CC: public-council@w3.org, harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>, "public-social-interest@w3.org" <public-social-interest@w3.org>, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
On 08/28/2015 05:34 PM, Lynn Foster wrote:
> Hi, chiming in late, sorry.  I also like the idea of starting a new group,
> I very much like "Collaborative Economy" as a name and a focus, and would
> like to participate.
Thank you Lynn,

I also lean toward starting a new CG and just inviting everyone from
Community I/O to rejoin if one still feels interest in participating.

Just earlier today someone tried to explain me difference between two
groups active in Barcelona. Social Economy and Solidarity Economy. Than
we have Sharing Economy and Collaborative economy.

Since W3C has 'Social Activity' ( http://www.w3.org/Social/ ) as part of
'Technology & Society Domain' ( http://www.w3.org/TandS/ ). And Social
Activity mentions already closed Social Business CG which concluded with

Maybe to keep the *Social* spirit, we could name new group Social
Economy CG and simply use 'economy' for short name? This would result in
CG url https://www.w3.org/community/economy/

I also apologize for not mentioning in my previous email, very inspiring
work which Lynn, Bob and others already started in
https://github.com/openvocab Where they focus on describing concepts
like Agent, Resource, Process, Exchange etc. in context of socioeconomic
environment, at least as I understand it currently.

Last thing I would like to notice, Sandro mentions in one of Crosscloud
documents, various online services which many people consider as
Collaborative Economy platforms (silos) and which had representation
during OuiShare Fest 2014 (where Harry also gave talk and joined panel

I hope we can base work in this new CG on outcomes from Social WG and
use extensibility mechanisms to model economic domain.

How about using this repository to write description for new group
together? https://github.com/openvocab/w3c-economy-cg

I'll start with initial draft right away!

Thank you & Cheers :)

> Lynn
> http://mikorizal.org
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:48 AM, Daniel Harris <daniel@kendra.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi elf,
>> I like everything you say. Though it's still pretty broad. But that's OK.
>> And using recognisable terminology is good too. I'm excited!
>> And in lieu of Ian's comments I'd say just start a new group and post a
>> message in the old group to get them to join the new group. Count me in!
>> Cheers Daniel
>> On 20 Aug 2015, at 17:17, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> On 08/20/2015 04:17 PM, Daniel Harris wrote:
>>>>> Since than, many new open source project emerged working in field of
>>>>> Collaborative Economy and I would like to offer a venue to various
>>>>> people who work on them to give more focus to make them gradually more
>>>>> interoperable.
>>>>> I consider proposing Collaborative Economy Community Group, following
>>>>> naming used on social media. (for example on twitter
>>>>> https://twitter.com/hashtag/CollaborativeEconomy) and using #collecon
>>>>> IRC channel and collecon-public@w3.org mailing list.
>>>> I must admit I prefer "Collaboration IO" to "Collaborative Economy".
>> Use #collabio?
>>>> But, I guess, if you are trying to appeal to those who are conversant
>> with "Collaborative Economy" (a la OuiShare, Shareable...) then perhaps the
>> more well used/recognised words are more appropriate and better to get
>> engagement and adoption.
>>> I find myself making big mistake in setting way to broad context in
>>> Community I/O, Collaboration I/O still seems super generic and in many
>>> ways I/O can create more confusion than clarification.
>>> I want to emphasize the Economy part, and work around established terms
>>> like Sharing Economy, Collaborative Consumption and in last years more
>>> balanced Collaborative Economy. I would even include in description
>>> couple of more specific tags: #carpooling #ridesharing #mealsharing
>>> #foodcoops #coworking #hospitality #coliving #volunteering #swapping
>>> #skillsharing #coproduction #commons etc.
>>> I would also like to make it clear that it doesn't exclude commerce, but
>>> at the same time puts clearly in scope economic interactions based on
>>> sharing, collaboration, prosumption, volunteering etc.
>>> Also staying agnostic towards various possible forms of accounting,
>>> those already existing: barter, monatary purchase, reputation based
>>> grant, donation/gift, merit/karma etc. as well as those now unknown but
>>> which will appear in the future.
>>> Maybe starting with writing a clear charter draft, together with other
>>> interested people would make sense here? I would also refer to some
>>> particular candidate technologies, for example:
>>> * http://goodrelations-vocabulary.org
>>> * http://schema.org/Offer, http://schema.org/Demand,
>>> http://schema.org/Service
>>> * http://microformats.org/wiki/h-listing
>>> * https://web-payments.org/specs/
>>> I think this would allow better decision for a possible venue...
>>> Cheers!

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