Re: ISSUE-20/ACTION-8 Text on how conformance interacts with the availability of hardware

[At risk of someone asking why I was reading the conformance section of CSS Writing Modes Level 3]

When I read that it obviously struck me that it was part of an answer to our ISSUE-20, however I am troubled (in a somewhat minor way) ...

CSS specifies its conformance in terms of a Renderer which it says is a UA which is in turn a program (see [1]).

Coremob 2012 [2]  in its current draft refers to User Agents so likewise refers to programs.

Are we happy to leave it at that - i.e. that any claim of conformance relates to an identifiable piece of software? I think I'm happy with that, but am conscious that it could arguably leave out of scope software running in devices whose software cannot be distinguished from the device as a whole that it is installed on [it's not separately updatable, etc.]. 

Jo

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.html#user-agent
[2] http://coremob.github.com/coremob-2012/ED-coremob-20120829.html [coming soon]

On 29 Aug 2012, at 13:47, Tobie Langel wrote:

> On 8/29/12 2:42 PM, "Robin Berjon" <robin@berjon.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> chasing down my last AIs...
>> 
>> At the F2F we opened "ISSUE-20: We need to have a way to express how
>> conformance interacts with the availability of hardware", which I had an
>> action to handle.
>> 
>> Jo stumbled over the following yesterday (the operative part is after
>> "However", the beginning is provided for context):
>> 
>> """
>> A renderer is conformant to CSS Writing Modes Level 3 if, in addition to
>> interpreting the style sheet as defined by the appropriate
>> specifications, it supports all the features defined by CSS Writing Modes
>> Level 3 by parsing them correctly and rendering the document accordingly.
>> However, the inability of a UA to correctly render a document due to
>> limitations of the device does not make the UA non-conformant. (For
>> example, a UA is not required to render color on a monochrome monitor.)
>> """
>> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-writing-modes/#conformance-classes
>> 
>> I believe that this can simply be adapted for any other situations.
> 
> Absolutely. I'll include that wording in the spec.
> 
> That's great, thank you.
> 
> --tobie
> 
>