- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 00:49:28 -0500
- To: Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com>
- Cc: hellekin <hellekin@cepheide.org>, public-community-io <public-community-io@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACvcBVopQoCSa9==uf39nkTBA9Ng0Lt-X+TYRZAY6VNeQVGj1g@mail.gmail.com>
I'm feeling strongly about this. I also know some people who might be able to help with this. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>wrote: > I have a hunch a lot lies in things like Payswarm and Ripple. I mean it > certainly is emotional for me. Payswarm can keep track of intentions, and > Ripple allows of decentralized payment and may keep track of intentions. > Something (experience and otherwise) is telling me to focus more on web > payments. > > I've had a lot of problems with trying to look at everything to see > patterns, try to avoid reinventing the wheel. Eventually, I concluded that > to implement stuff I just needed to study more languages (but more, so it > is looking like JavaScript) and if I was bothered by the theory or wanted > help understanding how it would work best than CS stuff. It was all very > confusing. > > Can I safely ditch https://www.coursera.org/course/hci (Human-Computer > Interaction), https://www.coursera.org/course/pgm (Probabilistic > Graphical Models), https://www.coursera.org/course/bigdata (Web > Intelligence and Big Data), https://www.coursera.org/course/gamification(Gamification) and put it on the shelf for now? Clearly building a > distributed economy is a massive undertaking, and these things could > certainly come into play. Money, or at least some record of exchange, > appears to be a very important part. Knowing this to build something may > not be necessary. > > I'd like to commit more time to this, and obviously I have to focus in > order to do that. > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Patrick Anderson <agnucius@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Creating a usable barter system also requires actions be accompolished >> *early* in time. >> >> Here is my vision of such a system: >> >> First of all, this requires something I call either a "Production Arena", >> or (less often) a "Vertically Integrated Permaculture Mosaic". >> >> The Production Arena (or VIPM) is the interlocking Physical Sources such >> as land and water rights and plants and animals and tools and other things >> needed to create a "Basic Outcome" for all the participants. >> >> And so we attract middle-to-upper-income investors to supply the money to >> buy these Physical Sources for an advertised return of organic goods and >> services in the future - though they will actually be receiving >> co-ownership in the Production Arena, and receiving the goods and services >> as a 'side-effect' of that co-ownership. In this way we eliminate the >> buying and selling of those goods and services. >> >> And we must also attract middle-to-lower-income investors to cross-commit >> their *future* labor in return for co-ownership in the Production Arena. >> >> By "cross-commit" I mean each worker will promise to work in a specific >> part of the Production Arena (say milking cows) in return for receiving >> co-ownership in many other parts of the Production Arena needed to supply >> him with all of his basic needs. >> >> I need to refine how I explain this, because there is a bit more to it >> that I did not include in the above... >> >> Each investors (whether committing money or future labor) will usually >> receive a 'bundle' of property-rights *and* commitments from others to >> perform the future labor necessary to accomplish that production. >> >> For example, the cow-milker would usually receive both ownership in the >> dentist office *and* commitments from the dentist to fix his teeth in the >> future when necessary. >> >> When used in conjunction these commitments create the kind of security >> that insurance pretends to deliver. I sometimes call it "life assurance". >> > > > > -- > Brent Shambaugh > > I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching > how to build better economies. > Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com > -- Brent Shambaugh I've worked with polymers, I teach chemistry, I'm currently researching how to build better economies. Website: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com
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