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Part of text is no longer valid - G156, C23 and C25

From: <sheena.mccullagh@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 20:49:25 +0000
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Name: Sheena McCullagh
Email: sheena.mccullagh@blueyonder.co.uk
Affiliation: None
Document: TD
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Part of Item: User Agent Notes
Comment Type: technical
Summary of Issue: Part of text is no longer valid - G156, C23 and C25
Comment (Including rationale for any proposed change):
When WAIG2 was out for public comment I emailed in my concerns which were copied and pasted into G156.  I later wrote C23 and added in the same text.  I also wrote C25 and while the user agent notes are not added to this, reference to the issues is made within the text.

While what I said at the time was valid, part of it no longer is ie Firefox have corrected the following issue (NB I'm not sure about Netscape.) - 'When specified colors are overridden in Firefox and Netscape, most Javascript pop-up boxes and drop-down menus become unusable. Pop-up boxes gain a transparent background, superimposing the text of the box on the text of the page, and drop-down menus either become transparent or gain a dark-grey background.'

No mention was ever made of Safari, which doesn't allow you to specify colours, not even the PC version, nor does it pick up the colours selected in the system settings.  This is true even for the latest version, ie Safari 5.0.1

The text of the description sections will then also need amending.

Proposed Change:
Check Netscape to see if the problem has been corrected.  If it has completely remove the above detailed paragraph.  If it hasn't been corrected, remove the text 'Firefox and' from the above paragraph. (G156 and C23.)

Underneath the current final paragraph (about IE 6), add in text regarding Safari, eg:

There are no color settings in Safari so it is not possible to over-ride specified colors. Similarly where colors are not specified Safari displays the page in black text on a white background, ignoring any color preferences from within the system settings.

Add this amended User Agent not to the top of C25.

C23 - In the description.  Second paragraph, after the first comma add in 'with the exception of Safari,' to make the first sentence read 'When an author does not specify the colors of the text and background of the main content, with the exception of Safari, it is possible to change the colors of those regions in the browser without the need to override the colors with a user style sheet'.

C23 - In the description.  Third paragraph, second sentence, after the first three words add in ', with the exception of Safari,' to make that sentence read 'As a result, with the exception of Safari, the colors are completely determined by the user agent via the user's color preferences.'

C25 - In the description if the Netscape have corrected the JavaScript issues, the final sentence of the first paragraph needs removing.

C25 - In the description again if the Netscape have corrected the JavaScript issues, the following sentence needs removing from the second paragraph - 'It can also mean that pop-up boxes gain a transparent background, superimposing the text of the box on the text of the page, and drop-down menus either become transparent or gain a dark-grey background.'

C25 - In the description (NB this is to be used in conjuntion with adding the User agent not to the top of the technique) - at the end of the first sentence add in '(please see above note in relation to Safari)'
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