- From: Gregg Vanderheiden <gv@trace.wisc.edu>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:10:23 -0500
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Dear N Maffeo We have received a number of comments from you to the Public Comments list. Some of the comments you sent in are related to comments on the documents. These we are processing and will send comments to back to you when we have time to review and respond to them (One is done and is below. The other one will follow when we get to it in queue). Other comments you sent are not asking about the guidelines but are instead requests to comment on or advise you on aspects of pages you are writing. We are not able to respond to these types of inquiries. The WCAG Public Comments List is for public comments on the WCAG documents. Please use this public comment list only to submit errors, omissions, issues, or needed clarifications to the documents. Suggestions for new techniques should be submitted using the Techniques for WCAG 2.0 submission form. Please note that the public list should not be used to ask questions about particular websites or implementation issues. We just don't have the ability to respond to these questions. Questions about how to apply WCAG, or how to apply it to a particular page or site should be sent a) to one of the many consultants working in the area, b) to the WAI Interest Group (IG) mailing list (w3c-wai-ig@w3.org ), or c) to one of the many other mailing lists and forums that focus on Web accessibility. Some general comments that may be helpful to you. 1) NOTHING is required that is not specifically required in the WCAG 2.0 Guidelines. - and in the WCAG 2.0 guidelines - the ONLY things required are the SUCCESS CRITERIA and the Conformance Requirements that you can find in the CONFORMANCE section of WCAG 2.0 2) TECHNIQUES are NEVER required. They as simply options that you may or may not use to meet the Success criterion in WCAG 2.0 3) Some techniques will conflict with other techniques. Since neither is required this is not a problem. If two techniques conflict - then don't use both. 4) Read the Understanding document carefully to understand the Success Criteria. Thank you for your comments. We will be responding to the ones that are suggesting changes to our documents (edits, errors or omissions). Below are the items that do NOT fall in this category and that we are not in a position to address. Thank You Gregg and Loretta YOUR COMMENTS ARE ALL LISTED BELOW GROUPED INTO THREE CATEGORIES 1) WCAG Questions - Done These are questions about the WCAG documents that we have answers for. And they are provided with each item. In general however - questions are put in queue and will take some time to get to. (see #3 below) 2) WCAG Questions - Still in Queue These are question about the WCAG documents that are in queue for discussion by the Working Group. We will work on them in turn as we get to them. Thank you for your comments. We will let you know how they come out when they are processed. It may take some time depending on other work items. If you need quicker responses in order to do your work - please check with a consultant. They can probably help you to understand the guidelines while we work on making the language more understandable in our formal docs to be released later this year. 3) Consultant Questions These are questions that should be addressed to consultants. They do not fall into the category of things we need to change in the next release of the WCAG support documents. ===================== YOUR COMMENTS ===================== ============================================================= 1) WCAG Questions - Done These are questions about the WCAG documents that we have answers for. And they are provided with each item. In general however - questions are put in queue and will take some time to get to. (see #3 below) From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 24, 2009 12:16:57 AM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org, gv@trace.wisc.edu Subject: The techniques listed only satisfy the Success Criterion if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements have been met Please change the requirements for Images of Text, level AA, and Resize Text, Meaningful Sequence, Bypass Blocks. It is almost impossible to pass because it requires all conformance requirements. There is a decleration at the bottom of the page "The techniques listed only satisfy the Success Criterion if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements have been met." Also, please see http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#conformance note 2. Please remove Images of Text as a requirement from AA, since it is also a level AAA requirement. This way it is harmonized with note 2 There are additional requirements that have the same scenario. If I am wrong and the level A, or AA requirement, does not need to be synchronized with level AAA requirements, then at least change the language "The techniques listed only satify the Succession Criterion if all of the WCAG 2.0 conformance requirements have been met:" so it makes more sense to what you mean. My interpretation of "all of the conformance requirements" means level AAA conformance. Please clean up the language or the requirements that have these statements. The statement is very confusing. RESPONSE : Level A, AA, and AAA are Success Criteria - not "Conformance Requirements" The conformance Requirements can be found in the Conformance Section. You will note that the phrase "WCAG 2.0 conformance Requirements" in your quoted text above is a link. If you click on it -- it will take you to the conformance requirements. ( ============================================================= 2) WCAG Questions - Still in Queue These are question about the WCAG documents that are in queue for discussion by the Working Group. We will work on them in turn as we get to them. Thank you for your comments. We will let you know how they come out when they are processed. It may take some time depending on other work items. If you need quicker responses in order to do your work - please check with a consultant. They can probably help you to understand the guidelines while we work on making the language more understandable in our formal docs to be released later this year. -------------- From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 25, 2009 6:56:33 PM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Cc: gv@trace.wisc.edu Subject: Text color, G148 1.4.3 & 1.4.6 Is the intent of this G148 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/G148 used to evaluate the paragraph, link color, heading color, or all? ============================================================= 3) Consultant Questions These are questions that should be addressed to consultants. They do not fall into the category of things we need to change in the next release of the WCAG support documents. From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 25, 2009 8:58:56 PM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Cc: gv@trace.wisc.edu Subject: FOCUS VISIBLE, 2.4.7 and Color Contrast At example C15, can I specify a:focus to be the same color as the primary active link link? I have it currently set up so it is a:active, a:visited, a:hover, a:focus, all receive the same color. Does this cause Focus Visible problems? Does it cause Color Contrast problems? The color selection for all links passed the 3:1, 4:5:1, and the 7:1 ratio. From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 23, 2009 8:30:28 AM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Subject: 2.4.1 Skip Links/Bypass Blocks I have a question. Is the page at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/ wcag20.php "Skip to Content" an example of G1, G123, or G124. From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 25, 2009 8:58:56 PM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Cc: gv@trace.wisc.edu Subject: FOCUS VISIBLE, 2.4.7 and Color Contrast At example C15, can I specify a:focus to be the same color as the primary active link link? I have it currently set up so it is a:active, a:visited, a:hover, a:focus, all receive the same color. Does this cause Focus Visible problems? Does it cause Color Contrast problems? The color selection for all links passed the 3:1, 4:5:1, and the 7:1 ratio. From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 22, 2009 6:59:20 PM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Cc: 508@access-board.gov Subject: Focus Visibe: C15 and G195 If my page has an a:hover, and a:visited to be exactly the same as the regular a tag, how does impact Focus Visible? I am not using SCR31, because I am not using any scripting. Do I need to setup an a: hover that is of a different color than the primary a tag? ==================== From: N Maffeo <maffeonjr@yahoo.com> Date: July 25, 2009 6:56:33 PM CDT To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org Cc: gv@trace.wisc.edu Subject: Text color, G148 1.4.3 & 1.4.6 Is the intent of this G148 http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/G148 used to evaluate the paragraph, link color, heading color, or all?
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