- From: Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:19:31 -0700
- To: "Liam McGee" <liam.mcgee@communis.co.uk>
- Cc: public-comments-WCAG20@w3.org
Dear Liam McGee, Thank you for your comments on the 11 Dec 2007 Last Call Working Draft of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 (WCAG 2.0 http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20071211). The WCAG Working Group has reviewed all comments received on the December draft. Before we proceed to implementation, we would like to know whether we have understood your comments correctly and whether you are satisfied with our resolutions. Please review our resolutions for the following comments, and reply to us by 31 March 2008 at public-comments-wcag20@w3.org to say whether you accept them or to discuss additional concerns you have with our response. Note that this list is publicly archived. Please see below for the text of comments that you submitted and our resolutions to your comments. Each comment includes a link to the archived copy of your original comment on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/, and may also include links to the relevant changes in the WCAG 2.0 Editor's Draft of 10 March 2008 at http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-20080310/. Note that if you still strongly disagree with our resolution on an issue, you have the opportunity to file a formal objection (according to 3.3.2 of the W3C Process, at http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#WGArchiveMinorityViews) to public-comments-wcag20@w3.org. Formal objections will be reviewed during the candidate recommendation transition meeting with the W3C Director, unless we can come to agreement with you on a resolution in advance of the meeting. Thank you for your time reviewing and sending comments. Though we cannot always do exactly what each commenter requests, all of the comments are valuable to the development of WCAG 2.0. Regards, Loretta Guarino Reid, WCAG WG Co-Chair Gregg Vanderheiden, WCAG WG Co-Chair Michael Cooper, WCAG WG Staff Contact On behalf of the WCAG Working Group ---------------------------------------------------------- Comment 1: Screen width issue with reflow Source: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-comments-wcag20/2007Dec/0052.html (Issue ID: 2377) Status: VERIFIED / NOT ACCEPTED ---------------------------- Original Comment: ---------------------------- (From responses to Issue 2356) Problem 1: ---------- Horizontal scrolling is not an accessibility issue (or, at least, I have no evidence that this is the case from experience with users with disabilities) - horizontal scrolling does not prevent a user from accessing information any more than vertical scrolling does. I am well used to scrolling all over the viewport when using screen magnification software, for example. This *is* a usability issue, but it does not prevent access to information. More critically, the need for horizontal scrolling depends on the pixel-width of the viewport, and this is *impossible for the designer to control*. A moderately long word (or a URL) on a PDA will easily fail this - and some languages have a lot of long words. Proposed Change: ---------------- Suggested change: replace "in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally" with "while remaining readable to the user" Current comment: Is there any update about the screen width issue? --------------------------------------------- Response from Working Group: --------------------------------------------- We have clarified the last bullet of the success criterion by adding "on a full screen window". So any URI would have to be longer than 1/2 of the screen in order to cause a problem with this provision. Note that the last bullet does not prohibit the use (or need to use) a horizontal scroll bar. It just prohibits requiring its use to read a single line of text in a paragraph from the beginning to the end. We have added information to Understanding 1.4.8 to help clarify this. Any page with two columns of text on it would automatically conform even if it did not reflow. You could zoom the page and read either column using only the vertical scrollbar once you had the column on screen. Screen magnifiers such as Zoomtext are designed specifically to make horizontal scrolling (or any kind of scolling) extremely easy, by simply moving the mouse. Users who do not have the benefit of assistive technology do not have this same advantage. At level AAA our success critieria do not have the same requirement of AT on the part of the user that we find at Level A and AA. People with cognitive challenges do not require a screen magnifier to read, but they are most certainly disoriented by having to scroll horizontally. This is also true of low vision people who do not use AT.
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