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Irl-DeAN member comments

From: Hugh O'Neill <honeill@crc.ie>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:27:16 +0100
To: "public-comments-wcag20@w3.org" <public-comments-wcag20@w3.org>
Cc: "Elaine McGlynn (E-mail)" <Elaine.McGlynn@dcu.ie>
Message-ID: <2671E995839C964BA2AC0E4C0A37165A692BDA@crcexchange.crc.ie>

The following are comments by two members of the Irish Design for All e-Accessibility Network (Irl - DeAN), a network aimed at promoting the use of the principles of Design-for-All for e-accessibility. 

	1.	The guidelines are easy to understand, with the exception of the phrase "programmatically determined", that could be changed to "understood by software", or something less obscure.

	2.	With regard to baselines, browsers should be encouraged to be standards compliant. There should be a minimum standard that they meet (e.g. css 2.0). Any technical experimentation should be additional to these basic standards. Without a real technical standard, accessibility becomes very difficult to achieve with different solutions required for different browsers.

	3.	The standards need to be brought up to date with current technology to allow pages to be made valid. Egg the embed tag. They should be flexible enough to allow objects, but the objects themselves should also be designed to accessible standards. 

	4.	a) For point 1.1 SC2, "functional non-text content" needs to be either rephrased or an example provided. At the moment it's unclear.
		b)  point 1.2 SC4, some of those reading the checklist will not be sure about what is accessible to assistive technology. Good backup guidelines are important.
		c) In 1.3, the words "programmatically determined" needs to be changed to something like "understood by software". For structures, you could say instead that the structure should convey a hierarchy of information.
		d) 1.4 L2 SC2 is difficult to follow
		e) 2.4 L2 SC1 "programmatically identified", may need to rephrase.
		f) 3.2 L2 SC3 General: Delivery Unit, Perceivable Unit all need real life examples to clarify what they mean. 
		g) "change of context" may also need further definition and examples. 

	5. 	3 levels gives those who take it on something to aim for. To have a standard where nothing is achievable until everything is achievable will put people off trying. One idea may be to go for a "gold, sliver and bronze" medal approach to accessibility. Bronze would be achieving level 1, Gold achieving at level 3. This would also get across the idea of the desirability of good accessibility. 

Hugh O'Neill
Project Co-ordinator,
Central Remedial Clinic,
Vernon Avenue,
Dublin 3,

Elaine McGlynn
Support-EAM Project,
Electronic Eng. Dept.,
Dublin 9,

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