- From: Andy Budd <andy@message.uk.com>
- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:30:26 +0100
- To: public-comments-wcag20@w3.org
First off I'd be very interested to know how these guidelines came about, so that I can put the changes in perspective. Have the changed been made due to objective reasons such as extensive user testing or academic/industry research or more subjective reasons such as expert review, industry suggestions etc. Secondly I'd like to know what has been dropped from version 2 that was included in version 1 and why. --- Guideline 1.3 Ensure that information, functionality, and structure are separable from presentation. Issue 487. are tables for layout a violation of 1.3? Evaluation: Enforcing non-table layouts is not possible at this time for any more than Web sites with simple presentations. This is obviously untrue. There are many CSS website around that have extremely complicated layouts. It's my impression that the guidelines are there to help people with accessibility issues, not to offer compromises to designers or site owners that want to get AAA rating without putting the effort in. It would seem to me that enforcing the use of CSS for presentation and making sites that use presentational code in the HTML invalid (at least at level 3) would be a good thing --- Guideline 2.1 Make all functionality operable via a keyboard or a keyboard interface. Is this not a little subjective? For instance, if a web browser doesn't support tabbing between links or form elements, it's beyond the site developers ability to do anything about it. -- Guideline 2.4 Facilitate the ability of users to orient themselves and move within the content Level 2 Success Criteria for Guideline 2.4 1. documents greater than 50,000 words or sites larger than 50 perceived pages, at least one of the following is provided As mentioned in the editorial notes, 50,000 words and 50 pages seems completely arbitrary. In some ways it should depend on the hierarchy and navigation of the site. For instance, if all the pages on the site are available from all the other pages (i.e. a very flat structure) then there isn't any need for a site map. However if the site has a structure that is several levels deep, and these levels can't be accessed from the homepage, then even if there are only 30 pages, a site map would still be needed. I'd argue that a site map should be required if you can't access every page of the site from every other page of the site! -- Guideline 2.5 Help users avoid mistakes and make it easy to correct them. Level 3 Success Criteria for Guideline 2.5 1. Where the input options are known, there are less than 75 of them, and they can be provided without jeopardizing security, test validity, etc, users are allowed to select from a list of options as well as to enter text directly. Firstly 75 seems a very arbitrary number. Secondly, selecting from a list of 75 items could actually be an accessibility issue in it's own right. You may be forced to tab/scroll through each item before you come to the one that you want, which would be very tedious. For people with reading or cognitive difficulties it could be incredibly difficult to deal with such a large list. -- That's all for now. Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/
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