Re: [EXTERNAL] Time-sensitive: Do any COGA members want to talk about EOWG's "How People With Disabilities Use the Web" from Kinney, Kris Anne on 2022-01-10 (public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org from January 2022)

From: Kinney, Kris Anne <kakinney@ets.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 15:44:26 +0000
To: Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org>
CC: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>, "EOWG Chairs (group)" <group-eo-chairs@w3.org>
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Hi Julie,
Apologies for the delay in getting back to you.  The first link you sent (https://deploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app/people-use-web/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XLkbaV%2FNan6%2BXliShmxuVzJm%2B3FsWz4dro9Fiq%2Be9hM%3D&reserved=0> ) is the link that has the updated stories that Kevin and his team have been working on.  The second link to the WAI site is the older version of the stories, which will eventually be replaced with the stories that we are working on.

The date for any additional comments would be January 14, 2022.  You can make those comments via email, Google Doc, or directly into the open issues Github space<https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web/issues> for the project.

Best,
Kris Anne

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Kris Anne Kinney
Senior Accessibility Specialist
Accessibility Standards and Inclusive Technology (ASIT)

An accessibility consultation early in a project helps avoid barriers later.  Submit an Accessibility Work Request<https://etsorg1.sharepoint.com/teams/rd/a11y/Lists/Accessiblity%20Work%20Requests/active.aspx> today.

From: Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org>
Date: Friday, January 7, 2022 at 12:29 PM
To: Kinney, Kris Anne <kakinney@ets.org>
Cc: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Time-sensitive: Do any COGA members want to talk about EOWG's "How People With Disabilities Use the Web"
Hi, Kris Anne, many thanks for your message. At yesterday's COGA taskforce meeting, we discussed asking for more time to discuss the draft as a group.

Since yesterday's meeting, I noticed there appears to be a new version of the document. Which version should the COGA team focus on right now?

  *   https://deploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app/people-use-web/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XLkbaV%2FNan6%2BXliShmxuVzJm%2B3FsWz4dro9Fiq%2Be9hM%3D&reserved=0>

     *   This is the version that folks were asked to review in the EOWG survey that closed on Tuesday.

  *   https://www.w3.org/WAI/people-use-web/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TBw8Rs5BJANFKzsJH8jAPIDluZgNbJORznHGXwBBHnA%3D&reserved=0>

     *   I think this is a new version? Or is this an older version?
     *   This version's first page is very similar to the first page in the survey version, but the subsequent pages have a lot of changes in terms of both the structure and content.
     *   For example, in the survey version, Luis is a basketball fan with Down syndrome<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2Fuser-stories-five%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TU6xLmLMqWKunZUGDpnGFvloU7T8YvJIOAn3RSpVecs%3D&reserved=0>. In this other version, Luis is a supermarket assistant with Down syndrome<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fpeople-use-web%2Fuser-stories%2F%23supermarketassistant&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wHTcO9%2BWyC%2F5Tf6lPjHeKFPLXTpYKR%2F6fKOWtsK52DQ%3D&reserved=0>.
Please let us know which version we should focus on over the next week or so, thanks!

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:27 PM Kinney, Kris Anne <kakinney@ets.org<mailto:kakinney@ets.org>> wrote:
Happy New Year, everyone.

I spoke with Kevin and EO about extending the survey before the holiday break.  I think Kevin wanted to keep the closing date of today so that he can work on the feedback that has already been given, and try to make a plan for moving ahead with planning for future surveys and publication.  He also has things to discuss with EO that he wants to talk with them about this coming Friday.

However, that does not mean that COGA can’t still give feedback after the closing of the survey via email or a google doc.  If COGA wants to have a discussion dedicated to the feedback, as long as you get it to him within the next week to week and a half, it could still be within the timeframe that he is working on edits.

Julie, I believe you’ve already given him some feedback and he was very thankful for it.

If I can help convey feedback as well, please let me know.

Thanks,
Kris Anne
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Kris Anne Kinney
Senior Accessibility Specialist
Accessibility Standards and Inclusive Technology (ASIT)

An accessibility consultation early in a project helps avoid barriers later.  Submit an Accessibility Work Request<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fetsorg1.sharepoint.com%2Fteams%2Frd%2Fa11y%2FLists%2FAccessiblity%2520Work%2520Requests%2Factive.aspx&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TSN%2FdzwSObvV5zWcH9haxLvfKWwmAMXFF%2BM5vMdaW6o%3D&reserved=0> today.

From: Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org<mailto:jrawe@understood.org>>
Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:13 PM
To: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Time-sensitive: Do any COGA members want to talk about EOWG's "How People With Disabilities Use the Web"
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Hi, folks, do any of you want to have a meeting this week to discuss this near-final EOWG document, “How People with Disabilities Use the Web<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XLkbaV%2FNan6%2BXliShmxuVzJm%2B3FsWz4dro9Fiq%2Be9hM%3D&reserved=0>”?

At our last COGA meeting in December, we had discussed 3 options for each COGA member to submit feedback:

  *   Fill out the EOWG survey<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cJdZHfrYB0EVYHYRuLfqfqaNmKu6H5OUAlMF49If1Pw%3D&reserved=0>, which closes Tuesday, January 4 at 23:59 ET, and/or
  *   Add your comments to this internal COGA google doc<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8%2Ba1%2BmoannTcrvmKV6u4ZYJZMm8Ekc8fl1c%2F5lPBBhk%3D&reserved=0>, and/or
  *   Attend a meeting in early January that COGA will devote to reviewing this resource

But Lisa is wondering if COGA folks still want to have a meeting about this? Or if the survey and/or google doc are adequate options for everyone to submit their feedback?

Please let us know ASAP if you want to meet to discuss the document. If so, we will ask EOWG for more time to submit our feedback as a group, thanks!


On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:55 PM Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org<mailto:jrawe@understood.org>> wrote:
Hi, folks. At yesterday's COGA TF meeting, we talked about an urgent need for COGA to do a thorough review of an important EOWG resource by early January. As you'll see in this internal COGA review google doc,<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=4ak6IzgD5sLE4j8LOefRf7N%2FPd%2Bq4kc470uR9%2FBxD9w%3D&reserved=0> I have a lot of concerns about the current structure and wording.

Summary of this review request

  *   The Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG) is doing a “last look” review of several parts of “How People with Disabilities Use the Web<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=XLkbaV%2FNan6%2BXliShmxuVzJm%2B3FsWz4dro9Fiq%2Be9hM%3D&reserved=0>”
  *   EOWG created a survey<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cJdZHfrYB0EVYHYRuLfqfqaNmKu6H5OUAlMF49If1Pw%3D&reserved=0> to organize the review comments for these sections:

     *   How People with Disabilities Use the Web overview page<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.fd0hdb1d65ii&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2Bdc2w0jZgqivq5xBZPr4kfB%2F3J%2BmSOi1iZyHm4PMVmc%3D&reserved=0>
     *   Stories of Web Users overview page<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.twoo6jdmk26b&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cZAesdOlOG%2BafJNAY%2FXWjr5gH9RHRTSYDqxF6IL8zdY%3D&reserved=0> and nine user stories
     *   Diverse Abilities and Barriers<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2Fabilities-barriers%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AgHMFHhsNEy9V%2BkwIGy8vZjgQYubdAfs7uCtF3FV0bg%3D&reserved=0> (which includes a page on cognitive, learning, and neurological disabilities)
     *   Tools and Techniques<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2Ftools-techniques%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=aRRlIdJSXClNqLU0sWk5bsDnD0wc8ax0aoBBSmD51yM%3D&reserved=0>

  *   EOWG wants final review comments by early January

How and when COGA members can provide feedback

  *   Fill out the EOWG survey<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cJdZHfrYB0EVYHYRuLfqfqaNmKu6H5OUAlMF49If1Pw%3D&reserved=0>, which closes Tuesday, January 4 at 23:59 ET, and/or
  *   Add your comments to this internal COGA google doc<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7C943f85f6a8c74c9bc01108d9d203502c%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637771733951141663%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8%2Ba1%2BmoannTcrvmKV6u4ZYJZMm8Ekc8fl1c%2F5lPBBhk%3D&reserved=0>, and/or
  *   Attend a meeting in early January that COGA will devote to reviewing this resource. (Lisa and Rain will send that meeting invite soon.)

Thanks,
Julie

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Julie Rawe

Special Projects Editor, Editorial Content, Understood

E: jrawe@understood.org<mailto:jrawe@understood.org>

Pronounced Joo-lee Raw (like 'uncooked')

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