Re: [EXTERNAL] Time-sensitive: Do any COGA members want to talk about EOWG's "How People With Disabilities Use the Web"

Hi, Kris Anne, many thanks for your message. At yesterday's COGA taskforce
meeting, we discussed asking for more time to discuss the draft as a group.

Since yesterday's meeting, I noticed there appears to be a new version of
the document. Which version should the COGA team focus on right now?

   -
   https://deploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app/people-use-web/

      - This is the version that folks were asked to review in the EOWG
      survey that closed on Tuesday.
   - https://www.w3.org/WAI/people-use-web/
      - I think this is a new version? Or is this an older version?
      - This version's first page is very similar to the first page in the
      survey version, but the subsequent pages have a lot of changes
in terms of
      both the structure and content.
      - For example, in the survey version, Luis is a basketball fan with
      Down syndrome
      <https://deploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app/people-use-web/user-stories-five/>.
      In this other version, Luis is a supermarket assistant with Down
      syndrome
      <https://www.w3.org/WAI/people-use-web/user-stories/#supermarketassistant>
      .

Please let us know which version we should focus on over the next week or
so, thanks!

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 1:27 PM Kinney, Kris Anne <kakinney@ets.org> wrote:

> Happy New Year, everyone.
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> I spoke with Kevin and EO about extending the survey before the holiday
> break.  I think Kevin wanted to keep the closing date of today so that he
> can work on the feedback that has already been given, and try to make a
> plan for moving ahead with planning for future surveys and publication.  He
> also has things to discuss with EO that he wants to talk with them about
> this coming Friday.
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> However, that does not mean that COGA can’t still give feedback after the
> closing of the survey via email or a google doc.  If COGA wants to have a
> discussion dedicated to the feedback, as long as you get it to him within
> the next week to week and a half, it could still be within the timeframe
> that he is working on edits.
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> Julie, I believe you’ve already given him some feedback and he was very
> thankful for it.
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> If I can help convey feedback as well, please let me know.
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> Thanks,
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> Kris Anne
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> *From: *Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 1:13 PM
> *To: *public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Time-sensitive: Do any COGA members want to talk
> about EOWG's "How People With Disabilities Use the Web"
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> Hi, folks, do any of you want to have a meeting this week to discuss this
> near-final EOWG document, “How People with Disabilities Use the Web
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=x2xwhWoBGP9rv1ln4T%2FtXZqH6rgY5zGXSS13i7UKXz0%3D&reserved=0>
> ”?
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> At our last COGA meeting in December, we had discussed 3 options for each
> COGA member to submit feedback:
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>    - Fill out the EOWG survey
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=O1t2oDCfKhXiRkcYNJ3t3kMPyJ%2B46ZA88hAtnvuOzT0%3D&reserved=0>,
>    which closes *Tuesday, January 4* at 23:59 ET, and/or
>    - Add your comments to this internal COGA google doc
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=nwyDxiQkXiUkYPI8AWrfUTwshiR%2BCAX8HRyKIMowiJA%3D&reserved=0>,
>    and/or
>    - Attend a meeting in early January that COGA will devote to reviewing
>    this resource
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> But Lisa is wondering if COGA folks still want to have a meeting about
> this? Or if the survey and/or google doc are adequate options for everyone
> to submit their feedback?
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> Please let us know ASAP if you want to meet to discuss the document. If
> so, we will ask EOWG for more time to submit our feedback as a group,
> thanks!
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> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:55 PM Julie Rawe <jrawe@understood.org> wrote:
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> Hi, folks. At yesterday's COGA TF meeting, we talked about an urgent need
> for COGA to do a thorough review of an important EOWG resource by early
> January. As you'll see in this internal COGA review google doc,
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=XZZNHnRhSPvfSALNKWL6uaJ3i4E%2FWoc7AOXRJe0XRi0%3D&reserved=0>
> I have a lot of concerns about the current structure and wording.
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> *Summary of this review request*
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>    - The Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG) is doing a “last
>    look” review of several parts of “How People with Disabilities Use the
>    Web
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=x2xwhWoBGP9rv1ln4T%2FtXZqH6rgY5zGXSS13i7UKXz0%3D&reserved=0>
>    ”
>    - EOWG created a survey
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=O1t2oDCfKhXiRkcYNJ3t3kMPyJ%2B46ZA88hAtnvuOzT0%3D&reserved=0>
>    to organize the review comments for these sections:
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>    - How People with Disabilities Use the Web overview page
>       <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.fd0hdb1d65ii&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=aIY7aMi%2Fk5HS4ns1mvTZopQSdddrLEwOQXtUqkJ%2BPiU%3D&reserved=0>
>       - Stories of Web Users overview page
>       <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%23heading%3Dh.twoo6jdmk26b&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=qsWrR0Pz6vg4qcLKCB6x7oBq8MuFNVA9CFrnRzSTUJQ%3D&reserved=0> and
>       nine user stories
>       - Diverse Abilities and Barriers
>       <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2Fabilities-barriers%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=xCMEaAbtOEkxegh5Ch%2FSP4hwjbpsqFyqBE1a3HVBXk4%3D&reserved=0>
>       (*which includes a page on cognitive, learning, and neurological
>       disabilities*)
>       - Tools and Techniques
>       <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeploy-preview-113--wai-people-use-web.netlify.app%2Fpeople-use-web%2Ftools-techniques%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=hfWCqQs9sQHhFRvE5qeuIj5%2BC9NXgNJTDXlGXdRCrbM%3D&reserved=0>
>
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>    - EOWG wants final review comments by early January
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> How and when COGA members can provide feedback
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>    - Fill out the EOWG survey
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2002%2F09%2Fwbs%2F1%2FHow-People-Use-Web_2021-Dec%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=O1t2oDCfKhXiRkcYNJ3t3kMPyJ%2B46ZA88hAtnvuOzT0%3D&reserved=0>,
>    which closes *Tuesday, January 4* at 23:59 ET, and/or
>    - Add your comments to this internal COGA google doc
>    <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1swkJVhcw60QuLJEOFgRtNHh5SVhJYlPPH8N4XBEG3Bc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=04%7C01%7Ckakinney%40ets.org%7Cb3e28a24c0b341aee6ce08d9cfad8c23%7C0ba6e9b760b34fae92f37e6ddd9e9b65%7C0%7C0%7C637769168025900026%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=nwyDxiQkXiUkYPI8AWrfUTwshiR%2BCAX8HRyKIMowiJA%3D&reserved=0>,
>    and/or
>    - Attend a meeting in early January that COGA will devote to reviewing
>    this resource. (Lisa and Rain will send that meeting invite soon.)
>
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> Thanks,
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> Julie
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