- From: Rachael Bradley Montgomery <rachael@accessiblecommunity.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:21:06 -0400
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: David MacDonald <david@can-adapt.com>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>, Chuck Adams <charles.adams@oracle.com>
- Message-ID: <CAL+jyYJk3aQHX_ARTpNqCDUjEyc8FDGx5OxuWLPs=rH68F-38g@mail.gmail.com>
I had included the wrong document. This is the place COGA is consolidating its thoughts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U_NVxB-eIljhYSNcW0A7_2aHt9GwNfLnRF5n_stHrbc/edit On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:12 AM Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > Hi Rachael, > > > > My main points were in the previous email: > > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2020AprJun/0074.html > > > > In terms of problems to solve: > > - For anything with a wide scope (across ‘controls’) we then have to > define what an acceptable visual indicator would be. That is a big task, we > started that and people appeared to give up. > - For anything with a narrow scope (e.g. only buttons to proceed in a > process) it needs to be at least somewhat effective from a user point of > view. > > > > The critical thing is that it is clear how it is applied, for which trying > examples works best. > > > > E.g. for a few very different sites, can you apply the criteria and agree > what is in scope, and whether each instance passes or fails? > > > > I’d suggest: > > - An ecommerce site like Amazon.com (homepage and a product page). > - https://www.gov.uk/, and a gallery/navigation page like > https://www.gov.uk/browse/driving/driving-licences > - Pinterest (logged in homepage and a ‘pin’) > - A web based email client like Gmail or Outlook. > > > > I’ll also mention the ‘anti-virus’ analogy: We want the SC to catch things > that are negative whilst not impacting aspects that are not an issue for > PwD. I.e. not generate false-positives. > > > > I have to say I think it is a big challenge, I’m not sure that we know > enough about which design aspects do/don’t cause issues (in all contexts) > to be sure about this. > > > > Best of luck, > > > > -Alastair > > > > > > *From:* Rachael Bradley Montgomery > > > > Hello David, Alastair, and Chuck, > > > > The COGA taskforce feels that visual indicators are incredibly important > and is working this weekend to come up with a proposal to address the > comments and create a possible way forward for discussion on Tuesday. > > > > The document they are putting together is at > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WhZAbswvPHs7A3stfqM_ATsaBHPeGbHtARcmaKMck1U/edit# > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WhZAbswvPHs7A3stfqM_ATsaBHPeGbHtARcmaKMck1U/edit> > > > > If you have any thoughts on a possible way forward or if you can clarify > what you see as the critical hurdles, please jump in. > > > > Thank you all, > > > > Rachael > > > > -- > > Rachael Montgomery, PhD > > Director, Accessible Community > > rachael@accessiblecommunity.org > > > > "I will paint this day with laughter; > > I will frame this night in song." > > - Og Mandino > > > -- Rachael Montgomery, PhD Director, Accessible Community rachael@accessiblecommunity.org "I will paint this day with laughter; I will frame this night in song." - Og Mandino
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