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Re: WAI landing page for CogA

From: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 22:15:28 +0000
To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
CC: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B8E66EF2-8C80-4101-AC18-223961E2ABA9@helixopp.com>
“Address” works for me 

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> On Mar 8, 2019, at 2:04 PM, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, we get that, because we are on the inside. I’m just bringing it up to error on the side of caution 
> 
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>> On Mar 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ah, interesting point. The long version of what this intends to say is: WCAG includes requirements that, when followed, make the [website] more accessible for people with cognitive and learning disabilities..." But we don't want to go into that much detail. :-)
>> 
>> I changed it to 'address':
>> "For example, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) includes requirements that address cognitive accessibility."
>> 
>> ~Shawn
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/8/2019 3:18 PM, David Fazio wrote:
>>> I would be a little apprehensive to say “improve” cognitive accessibility. I’d prefer “ensure” or “related to” over “improve”. Only because there are techniques that actually scientifically improve/enhance cognition. Companies like Posit Science use them for rehabilitation, and other things.  I wouldn’t want to, in any way, allow for misconception.
>>> Something like:
>>>> For example, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) includes requirements related to (or that ensure) cognitive accessibility. The requirements (known as “success criteria”) are in guidelines such as:
>>> - Fazio
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>>>> On Mar 8, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org <mailto:shawn@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Abi,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much for the input at <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2019Mar/0036.html>. I agree that sentence is not totally smooth.
>>>> 
>>>> <start message>
>>>> I am struggling with the sentence " They are under these and other guidelines:" in the section on Cognitive Accessibility in W3C standards. It does not seem a clear way to say this. My suggestion would be to add "such as" to the previous sentence so that it read:
>>>> For example, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) includes requirements (called “success criteria”) that improve cognitive accessibility such as:
>>>> </end message>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The issue is that the sentence talks about requirements/success criteria, yet the list is of guidelines (not success criteria). Also, some on the TF call wanted to avoid "For example" and "such as" in the same sentence -- which I agree with.
>>>> 
>>>> A couple of options:
>>>> 1. For example, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) includes requirements that improve cognitive accessibility. The requirements (called “success criteria”) are in guidelines such as:
>>>> 2. For example, Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) includes requirements that improve cognitive accessibility. The requirements (called “success criteria”) are in these and other guidelines:
>>>> 
>>>> I do think #1 is more straightforward. However, it seem to me a bit wimpy. We really want this section to be strong. For that reason, I'm thinking #2 -- or something more like it -- might be better. Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ~Shawn
>>>> <http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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