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Re: Important - Re: Please provide feedback on the new Charter proposal for our Parent Group

From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:09:42 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKdCpxxJ67PdwPt5EB=0-9g=1+eqTcF_A5pbitLCP89Gvu9epg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Cc: Steve Lee <stevelee@w3.org>, "lisa.seeman" <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>, Jeanne Spellman <jspellman@spellmanconsulting.com>, Shawn Lauriat <lauriat@google.com>
I will +1 Janina's points about under-promising and over-delivering.

I have other serious concerns about the Charter, including an overly
aggressive time-line with regards to Silver reaching Recommendation status
in 3 years time. Given they've not even started to work on integrating some
of the COGA stuff that has been previously discussed, they've simply not
allocated enough time in my opinion. Releasing a first-generation "Silver"
that is nothing more than a re-formulation of WCAG 2.x, but still not
including more for the COGA user-group is not very palatable for me either
Lisa.

JF

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:53 AM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

> I will resist my temptation to do more than simply note the singularity
> in the Subject: of this thread ...
>
> Because I'm responding to underscore the importance of Steve's point. It
> is very, very important to promise what you are very confident of
> delivering in a W3C Charter. Future viability as a continuing working
> group in W3C depends on doing what you said you were going to do,
> accomplishing the goals you formally set forth in the Charter--on
> delivering the goods.
>
> So, the best rule of thumb, imo, is under promise and over deliver.
>
> So, I also suggest not picking up stones to throw at this time.
>
> Janina
>
>
> Steve Lee writes:
> > I'm pretty sure very few specifics like Cognitive, Mobile or Low Vision
> are
> > mentioned for a good reason. IE Alistair asked me to include this:
> >
> > "Please note that the aim with a Charter is to only commit to things your
> > are sure can be achieved (including full approval) within the stated
> > timeframe, whilst leaving open the option to do other work. It is thus
> > carefully worded to achieve this."
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On 17/06/2019 13:15, lisa.seeman wrote:
> > > Please note that the aim with a Charter is to only commit to things
> your
> > > are sure can be achieved (including full approval) within the stated
> > > timeframe, whilst leaving open the option to do other work. It is thus
> > > carefully worded to achieve this.
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka
>
> Linux Foundation Fellow
> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org
>
> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures        http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>
>
>

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*​John Foliot* | Principal Accessibility Strategist | W3C AC Representative
Deque Systems - Accessibility for Good
deque.com
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