- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:28:01 -0400
- To: public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
Minutes from the COGA teleconference of 19 April are provided below as text.
They're available as hypertext at:
https://www.w3.org/2018/04/19-coga-minutes.html
W3C
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SV_MEETING_TITLE
19 Apr 2018
Attendees
Present
janina, MichaelC, Roy, kirkwood, shari, alastairc, MarkWilcock
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Janina
Contents
* Topics
1. updates wcag
2. publication
* Summary of Action Items
* Summary of Resolutions
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Janina
<scribe> scribe: janina
updates wcag
ac: WCAG moving forward toward PR--in management review
... WG is reviewing Understanding docs
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC
ls: Can you confirm that's the current link?
<alastairc> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents
ac: Please do comment however easiest
<kirkwood> could you give the directions in IRC?
<kirkwood> great thanks I will check
ac: Notes directions at top of wiki page referenced above
<alastairc> Example where bruce added a doc as his comment: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/795
ls: 2 questions ...
ls 1. Deadline?
ac: First round initial review by Tuesday
... Hoping to have progressing review
<kirkwood> tead each page of document and comment on usefulness, correct?
ls: Is this an opportunity to give advice not covered by SC? i.e. best practices?
ac: Needs to be closely related
... should be closely related and fairly concise
ls: suggesting apportioning reviews ...
<alastairc> Steps, pick a doc from this page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing
<trackbot> Created ACTION-273 - Review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].
<alastairc> Step 2: click the link in the description, e.g. the second link in this page? https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/779
<kirkwood> I can review timeout
ls: timeout? anyone?
<alastairc> Step 3: add comments on the github issue.
<kirkwood> by tuesday yes
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: john to review Understanding Timeouts
<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwoo to review Understanding Timeouts
<trackbot> Created ACTION-274 - Review understanding timeouts [on John Kirkwood - due 2018-04-26].
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: mark to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing
<trackbot> Created ACTION-275 - Review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing [on Mark Wilcock - due 2018-04-26].
ls: Think we should also review other sections just in case we have anything to add ...
... Looking at spacing ...
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: EA to review undering https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/783
<trackbot> Created ACTION-276 - Review undering https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/783 [on E.A. Draffan - due 2018-04-26].
ls: Is that reasonable?
ac: sure
... comments first, then suggested text or edited text suggestions
jan: do we need to include references?
ls: no
ac: Thought references welcome
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ugestion we all read https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents and add coments on coga best practice
ls: believe now a good time for comments
... Also, can you provide update on our intro
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/
<alastairc> editors draft: https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/
js: Asks what doc being discussed?
ls & ac: the spec itself -- there was significant debate re the intro
<alastairc> https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/#background-on-wcag-2
ac: there are additions as a result
ls: no direct link
<alastairc> Work will carry on in this area in future versions of WCAG. We encourage authors to refer to our supplemental guidance on improving inclusion for people
with disabilities, including learning and cognitive disabilities, people with low-vision, and more.
Thanks!
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> sugestion we all read https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents and add coments on coga best practice
ls: summarizes that now a good time, best to comment by Tuesday as possible
jan: asks about symbolx support
ls: notes it's come back to life
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa to find uot updates on symbols
<trackbot> Created ACTION-277 - Find uot updates on symbols [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].
jan: noting that symbols need unique ids
... working on it
... will also look at concept net
ls: notes contacts on this issue via Personalization TF
jan: a copy?
ls: in p13n spec
... anything else re wcag?
publication
ls: any volunteers for another table edit?
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html
ls: OK, moving on for now ...
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html
janina: I goofed and have confused voices. Above refs to "Jan" should be "ea"
ls: anyone reviewed edits to summaries? Any comments?
<kirkwood> issue paper summaries page, Iā€™m looking at it
ls: Requesting John and EA, please review!
<kirkwood> yes I see it how would I comment?
ea: yes on symbols
... Is it in Word doc?
ls: link above
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html
ls: use this one!
ea: got it!
ls: also graded help
<kirkwood> yes
ls: to Lisa's offer to post summaries as Google Docs
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa make issue paer summaires a google docs
<trackbot> Created ACTION-278 - Make issue paer summaires a google docs [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].
ls: Any other volunteers?
<alastairc> NB: There is an HTML version of the "Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities" doc:
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/usable.html
<shari> yes
ls: hopefully by saturday
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: EA to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on E.A. Draffan - due 2018-04-26].
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwood to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> Error finding 'jkirkwood'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: john to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwoo to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on John Kirkwood - due 2018-04-26].
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Lisa to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Shari to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
<trackbot> Created ACTION-282 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on Shari Butler - due 2018-04-26].
ls: Please advise list when reviewed
... can then move to a coga cfc
<alastairc> NB: There is an HTML version of the "Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities" doc:
https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/usable.html
<alastairc> with - https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/table.html
ac: expect can do by this time next week
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alister to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<trackbot> Error finding 'alister'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alastairc to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<trackbot> Error finding 'alastairc'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alast to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<trackbot> Error finding 'alast'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: AlastairC to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<trackbot> Error finding 'AlastairC'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Alastair Campbell to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
<trackbot> Created ACTION-283 - Campbell to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018apr/0010.html
[on Alastair Campbell - due 2018-04-26].
ls: that takes us back to the table; john R did a great job on his pass
... Anyone able to do a review? Noting it's not simple
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
ls: even 1 or two of them would help
<kirkwood> I have reviewed and thought quite good for now
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: shari to review https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
<trackbot> Created ACTION-284 - Review https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html [on Shari Butler - due 2018-04-26].
sb: Will do this afternoon with Jan. It's on my calendar
ls: looking forward recalling design reqs ...
... Is there desire for Monday meeting on that?
[expressions of unavailability]
ls: believe we've plenty assigned for now!
... Suggest to issue CfC on publication Monday due end of week
... following that we can return to design
... any other business?
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> jhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: alast to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
[NEW] ACTION: Alastair Campbell to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
[NEW] ACTION: alastairc to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
[NEW] ACTION: AlastairC to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
[NEW] ACTION: alister to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html
[NEW] ACTION: EA to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
[NEW] ACTION: EA to review undering https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/783
[NEW] ACTION: jkirkwoo to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
[NEW] ACTION: jkirkwoo to review Understanding Timeouts
[NEW] ACTION: jkirkwood to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
[NEW] ACTION: john to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
[NEW] ACTION: john to review Understanding Timeouts
[NEW] ACTION: lisa make issue paer summaires a google docs
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to find uot updates on symbols
[NEW] ACTION: Lisa to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing
[NEW] ACTION: mark to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing
[NEW] ACTION: shari to review https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
[NEW] ACTION: Shari to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Present: janina MichaelC Roy kirkwood shari alastairc MarkWilcock
Found Scribe: janina
People with action items: alast alastair alastairc alister campbell ea jkirkwoo jkirkwood john lisa mark shari
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Janina Sajka
Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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