Re: Minutes: The Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference, Monday 17th February

Cynthia,
for me, they are similar only in that each is a specific learning
disability. they should not be subsets of each other.
Dyslexia has to do with reading
Dysgraphia has to do with writing

jim


On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  Are you considering dysgraphia to be a subset of dyslexia?
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> *From:* Jim Allan [mailto:jimallan@tsbvi.edu]
> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2014 9:55 AM
> *To:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org
> *Cc:* public-cognitive-a11y-tf
> *Subject:* Minutes: The Cognitive Accessibility Task Force
> Teleconference, Monday 17th February
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>
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> from: http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html
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>
> - DRAFT - Cognitive Accessibility Task-force telecon 17 Feb 2014
>
> See also: IRC log
> Attendees
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> Present
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> janina, Jim_Allan, Barry_Johnson, Lisa_Seeman, Katie, +1.804.749.aaaa,
> DebraRuh, Joseph_O´Conno, Neil_Milliken, Suzanne_Taylor
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> Regrets
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> Liddy_Nevile, Deborah_Dahl, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Kinshuk
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> Chair
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> Lisa Seeman
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> Scribe
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> allanj
>  Contents
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>    - Topics
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>  1.   Any new issues and introductions
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> 2.   Review of user goals
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> 3.   Table of content for gap analysis
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> 4.   Next steps and setting time
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> 5.   Table of content for roadmap
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>    - Summary of Action Items
>
>  ------------------------------
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> <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
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> <scribe> scribe: allanj
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> <Lisa_Seeman> who just joined the call
> Any new issues and introductions
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> <BarryJohnson> Are there instructions somewhere about how to be a scripe?
> Review of user goals
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> <Lisa_Seeman>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Feb/0032.html
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> ls: hope to set a schedule for goals
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> <BarryJohnson> *allenj - thanks
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> ls: reviews email
> ... user questions, applications, critical information, ict systems, etc.
> ... any comments
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> jr: like the broadness.
> ... when talking with folks, a large problem was communicating with loved
> ones.
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> jf: under applications. web apps in general or a specific application?
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> <NeilMilliken> I think it could be either
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> jf: specific application or more broad?
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> ls: both, people get frustrated with both
> ... last week...looking at tasks, with user scenarios...want broad strokes.
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> janina: W3 is web technology. desktop may be out of scope. mobile apps
> may be in scope (if web backend)
>
> ??: what about internet of things
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> janina: it is the web, ipv6
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> ls: create action, add examples to wiki
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> <Lisa_Seeman> *ACTION:* Lisa_Seeman update goals [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html#action01]
> Table of content for gap analysis
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> <NeilMilliken> I am happy with the goals
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> <Lisa_Seeman>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
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> <JohnRochford> I too am pleased with the goals
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> <Lisa_Seeman>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
>
> ls: review Gap TOC
> ... Section 3 (brainstorming) collect ideas - don't want to lose them
> ... are people comfortable with sections?
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> <JohnRochford> I am confortable with the sections
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> <NeilMilliken> Yes I am comfortable
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> ls: worked on these in China, they are open to change.
> ... now is good time to speak...
>
> SILENCE
> Next steps and setting time
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> ls: setting schedules.
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> <Lisa_Seeman>
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/userTemplate
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> <NeilMilliken> II should be able o get some user scenarios up by end of
> this week
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> ls: want reasonable about of time needed to complete an area
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> <NeilMilliken> I have less to put up than most :-)
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> <NeilMilliken> dyscalculia has less info
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> ls: perhaps 6 weeks
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> dr: don't know what is reasonable
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> ls: at least a draft
> ... want people to build a section and present to group
> ... so 6 weeks and a month later have a second draft
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> jr: sounds ok, getting started is important
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> nm: can use my stuff as an example
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> jf: +1, some of the ideas
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> <josephoconnor> Non-vocal encompasses a wide range of developmental and
> situational etiologies, which do no always intersect with intellectual
> disabilities. I'll have to narrow the focus to get anything done at all.
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> jf: next 6 weeks should not be a vacuum, get feedback through out the time
> ... gaps...write what you know, then we will fill in what's missing
>
> ls: if you know something is missing add that also
> ... add agenda request for help for next week
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> jr: looked at orgs working on cog a11y. have a list, willing to post.
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> <JohnRochford> http://www.clearhelper.org/Resources/CWA/Promoters/
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> ls: add to wiki page also
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> <BarryJohnson> Yes. That soyunds good
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> <BarryJohnson> *sounds
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> <josephoconnor> 6 weeks is good for now.
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> <BarryJohnson> I think we need a target to start with.
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> resolution: 6 weeks timeline for completing Gap Analysis
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> <BarryJohnson> +1 to JF - Don't be afraid to start
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> <Michel> +Q
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> ls: if anyone is not doing a user group, or want to do other research
> (i.e. executive function, specific technology, etc.)
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> michel: ADHD and executive function are closely related. though EF
> deficits show up elsewhere
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> <Michel> -q
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> ls: michel do you want to take executive function and run with it.
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> michel: sure, I will do that
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> ls: anyone want to look at specifications
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> rs: specifications for which technologies?
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> ls: FLUID, emotion markup, etc
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> rs: will take specifications (FLUID etc)
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> <josephoconnor> I will be at CSUN.
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> <NeilMilliken> I wish I was attending
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> rs: CSUN will have COGA panel discussion
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> <Lisa_Seeman> I will be there
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> <NeilMilliken> send me details just in case I can
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> ja: I will be there
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> <BarryJohnson> If we could get an idea of when & where
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> <richardschwerdtfeger> Cognitive Accessibility Task Force March 21, 2014
> Seapart A - IBM 2nd floor
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> <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Roadmap
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> <NeilMilliken> I have to go but dont let me stop you
> Table of content for roadmap
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> <josephoconnor>
> http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/2014/sessions/index.php/public/presentations/view/260
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> ls: any comments?
>
> rs: business needs, mobile? why we are addressing it now, rather than
> later
> ... want people interested. could be in the intro
> ... want to get it in peoples faces
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> <JohnRochford> I think it would be worthwhile to add mobile
>
> jr: the world is going mobile
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> rs: could put after intro, in separate section (business and mobile)
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> ls: 2 sections or just 1
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> <JohnRochford> I just realized there is another John (JF) on the call,
> and I have been answering questions directed to him. I apologize.
>
> rs: mobile - mean different input methods, or something else.
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> <josephoconnor> focus on users
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> janina: what is difference between mobile and standard input...if no
> difference don't call out. just add into issues
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> <josephoconnor> users not restricted to one environment
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> ls: will add business case after the intro. Business Case and urgency
> ... any other comments?
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> <josephoconnor> Voice output devices now generally have web access in
> addition to email and IM.
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> <BarryJohnson> Thank you everyone
>
> <josephoconnor> Going to Disneyland.
>  Summary of Action Items
>
> *[NEW]* *ACTION:* Lisa_Seeman update goals [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2014/02/17-coga-minutes.html#action01]
>
> [End of minutes]
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>
>



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