Re: AppCache post-mortem?

Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 02:06 -0700, Alex Russell a écrit :
> 
> My current plan with the Navigation Controller is to continue to
> iterate in conversation with developers and vendors using the github
> repo and issues system as a way to note and address concerns. When the
> design looks to be more stable, it will be circulated more widely,
> including in public-webapps. At that time, the Chrome team is on the
> hook for an early implementation to validate the design and I will be
> writing spec text for it.

So you're not interested in pushing the larger piece quite yet, right?

>         * structural challenge: there seems to be consensus that it is
>         currently
>         too hard for developers to influence the course of a spec,
>         even when the
>         state of the related technology is close to being unusable.
> 
> 
> This mis-charachterizes the issue: developers care about specs and
> standards incidentally. What they really want is a way to change the
> world which they must live in -- and that world is defined by the
> browsers that vendors with the largest footprints deploy.

Fair enough.

> What we can do is to help create better, higher-signal channels to
> funnel developer feedback to the few places it can actually matter;
> lending the W3C's bully pulpit to developers who feel the pain but are
> known to be elected representatives of a much larger group would go a
> long way in eliminating the instinct of vendors to write off
> individuals.

So your perspective is that an election is the best option to give real
weight to developers input? Put another way, from your involvement in
Chrome, do you think that an W3C developer representative (or maybe a
set of them?) would get real weight and visibility on the Chrome team
priorities?
 

> I honestly think this all hinges on the ability and wilingness of the
> AC to understand how screwed we are regarding developer feedback
> today. My sense is that it's just not on their radar yet.

Well, that might be true, but this is a pretty good opportunity to
change this, and I'm reasonably confident I can help us get there.

Also, this is about convincing the AC, but also down the line convincing
W3C management which I feel is lot closer to share that view.
 
Dom

Received on Tuesday, 14 May 2013 09:19:17 UTC