- From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 16:00:06 -0600
- To: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com>
- Cc: "david.bolter@gmail.com" <david.bolter@gmail.com>, "janina@rednote.net" <janina@rednote.net>, "jcraig@apple.com" <jcraig@apple.com>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "public-canvas-api@w3.org" <public-canvas-api@w3.org>
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you could try <input role="checkbox" type=checkbox> <label for=...> But our example has to be HTML 5 anyways as it is a <canvas> element. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: "david.bolter@gmail.com" <david.bolter@gmail.com>, "janina@rednote.net" <janina@rednote.net>, "jcraig@apple.com" <jcraig@apple.com>, "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "public-canvas-api@w3.org" <public-canvas-api@w3.org> Date: 11/24/2010 03:35 PM Subject: Re: testing the CanvasEditor attachment with JAWS12 and IE9 beta (was: Reworked Canvas 2D API using our revised DrawFocusRing) I was wondering to ask if adding some attributes would work for the current JAWS: <label role="..."><input role="..." /></label> Or otherwise. I don't mean for it to be in the example, just talking about the real-world. I'm quite in-the-dark about how JAWS supports ARIA. Have they published anything on the matter? On 11/24/2010 1:32 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: ARIA works fine on HTML 4. HTML 5 will have some restrictions. I think the problem is related to the labelling. Either IE (API Mapping) or JAWS is not dealing with this properly. Also the checkbox in HTML 4 is in quotes unlike in html 5. I don't know if that is an issue. Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group Inactive hide details for Charles Pritchard ---11/24/2010 02:49:23 PM---Do they support role/other ARIA attributes which would Charles Pritchard ---11/24/2010 02:49:23 PM---Do they support role/other ARIA attributes which would make the example work? Of course I want their From: Charles Pritchard <chuck@jumis.com> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS Cc: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>, "david.bolter@gmail.com" <david.bolter@gmail.com>, "janina@rednote.net" <janina@rednote.net>, "jcraig@apple.com" <jcraig@apple.com>, "public-canvas-api@w3.org" <public-canvas-api@w3.org> Date: 11/24/2010 02:49 PM Subject: Re: testing the CanvasEditor attachment with JAWS12 and IE9 beta (was: Reworked Canvas 2D API using our revised DrawFocusRing) Do they support role/other ARIA attributes which would make the example work? Of course I want their support for HTML 5, but I've always got an eye out for workarounds when it comes to installed client software. On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger < schwer@us.ibm.com> wrote: Hi Gregory, Thanks for giving it a spin. I think I know the main problem. We are using the HTML 5 labelling mechanism: <label><input type=checkbox id=showA> Show As</label> <label><input type=checkbox id=showB> Show Bs</label> versus the standard: <input type="checkbox" id="foo" /> <label for="foo">Show As</label> So, either IE does not map the accessibility API properly or JAWS simply does not handle this. I will send the example off to Freedom Scientific. Freedom Scientific does not yet support HTML 5 in their products. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger CTO Accessibility Software Group [attachment "atta2fvp.binary" deleted by Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM] "Gregory J. Rosmaita" ---11/24/2010 12:30:50 PM---aloha, rich! using IE9 beta and JAWS 12 (latest official release) i can minimally From: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net> To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, public-canvas-api@w3.org Cc: david.bolter@gmail.com, jcraig@apple.com, janina@rednote.net Date: 11/24/2010 12:30 PM Subject: testing the CanvasEditor attachment with JAWS12 and IE9 beta (was: Reworked Canvas 2D API using our revised DrawFocusRing) aloha, rich! using IE9 beta and JAWS 12 (latest official release) i can minimally access the contents of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010OctDec/att- 0035/CanvasEditor.html 1. when i issue a ReadAll command, i hear: "Show As Show Bs"; 2. when i tab navigate to the document via the IE9 chrome, i hear: "Show As Show Bs"; 3. when i tab navigate the document itself, i hear: "Show As" -- a subsequent tab does not cause JAWS to announce the second item in the canvas ("show Bs") 3A. if i tab navigate the document itself, whilst nothing is announced when i tab a second time, a DownArrow causes JAWS to speak "Show Bs"; 4. the checkboxes which the document source indicates should be included in the canvas element are totally invisible to JAWS; 5. i could not determine if pressing the SPACEBAR while on 1 of the 2 checkboxes activated the checkbox; 6. i could not use JAWS' checkbox hot key (x) to access either checkbox; 7. using the "List of Form Controls" command (INSERT+F5) i received a list of two items: check box not checked check box not checked but only the existence and state of the checkboxes are reported, not their labels ("Show As" and "Show Bs"); when i attempted to select one of the checkboxes using this mechanism, a recheck of the "list of form controls" indicated that the checkbox remained unchecked 7A. i could not activate either checkbox using the "List of Form Controls" let me know if you want/need more testing hope this helps, gregory. ---------------------------------------------------------- ACCOUNTABILITY, n. The mother of caution. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary ---------------------------------------------------------- Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus@hicom.net Vice-Chair, Webmaster & Listmaster: Open Accessibility http://a11y.org http://a11y.org/specs ----------------------------------------------------------
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