Re: BiDi working day in Berlin

+1 to making this a proper WG meeting.

Re: agenda, I’d be happy to present on our implementation roadmap based on
end-to-end user scenarios and drive a discussion around it.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:08 AM Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I agree that making this a real WG meeting would be good, especially if
> it's just a bit of paper work. David, are you familiar with that, and do
> you think it makes sense too?
>
> Also, how do we go about putting together an agenda for this? A wiki page
> that we can all edit?
>
> Best regards,
> Philip
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 7:23 PM Sam Sneddon <gsnedders@apple.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 20 Jul 2022, at 21:40, Titus Fortner <titus.fortner@saucelabs.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've messaged some of you privately already, but was asked to announce
>> it via this mailing group as well.
>>
>> I'm organizing a Test Automation Summit in Berlin next month to bring
>> together maintainers of various OSS projects based on Selenium/WebDriver.
>> Since we'll have a number of Selenium developers present, and because I
>> know several people in this group live in Germany, I thought we could also
>> get together in person to discuss and work on BiDi. There has been a
>> sufficiently positive response that I want to make sure everyone is invited
>> to join if they'd like.
>>
>> Sauce Labs plans to host this meeting at our WeWork office in Berlin on
>> Wednesday, August 24. I'm not sure what it takes to make this meeting
>> "official" or if that is necessary for people to want to attend.
>>
>>
>> David: Especially as it seems like there’s increasing contribution
>> cross-vendor, it would be good to have this as an official meeting of the
>> WG; per our charter & Process I believe this merely requires a formal
>> notification to the group and consent of the WG participants. We,
>> especially, would be much happier if this were an actual WG F2F.
>>
>> I do not have a schedule planned, and I'm more than happy to turn that
>> part over to someone else (David?). From the Selenium side, I'm hoping we
>> can get a better overview of what things browser vendors are prioritizing
>> to help us with our roadmap and our communication with our users. There has
>> also been confusion on the Selenium team as to how we are transitioning
>> away from the Chrome DevTools specific implementations to the cross-browser
>> implementations in each of the languages, so we're going to make sure we
>> get that cleared up. That part probably doesn't need a lot of browser
>> vendor involvement, though, and I want to make sure everyone is getting the
>> most out of this opportunity.
>>
>> At this point I'm expecting to see:
>> * Henrik Skupin (Mozilla)
>> * Maksim Sadym (Google)
>> * Philip Jägenstedt (Google)
>> * Michael Hablich (Google)
>> * David Burns (Browser Stack)
>> * Christiann Broman (formerly Sauce Labs)
>> * Diego Molina (Sauce Labs)
>>
>> If you'd like to join us, *please let me know*. If we get many more
>> people, we probably will need to reserve a space at a larger WeWork
>> downtown.
>>
>>
>> At least one, likely two, people from Apple will attend, but this is not
>> yet finalised as to who.
>>
>> As for the rest of the Summit:
>> The various project maintainers are going to be discussing our roadmaps
>> (including how we will be supporting BiDi in our various projects) on
>> August 25, but this likely won't be of interest to this group.
>>
>>
>> I can imagine some interest in observing that, to understand what current
>> plans are and what discussions are happening!
>>
>> On August 26, though, we're doing coding working sessions for making
>> contributions to the various projects. If anyone in this group is
>> interested in working on actual Selenium code, the relevant info and
>> application for that can be found here:
>> https://www..selenium.dev/blog/2022/test-automation-summit/
>> <https://www.selenium.dev/blog/2022/test-automation-summit/>
>>
>>
>> /Sam
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Titus
>>
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>>
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