- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:09:12 +0100
- To: Public BPWG <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of the call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-minutes.html
and copied as text below.
The main lessons from the call are:
* the group is still looking for implementation reports on the Mobile
Web Application Best Practices
* the group needs someone to drive the effort on the content
transformation guidelines test suites shortly, or the document might not
make it to standard status - SeanP will look into contributing to this
Dom
Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
02 Mar 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/mid/C7B1B782.9FA0%25daniel.appelquist@vodafone.com
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-irc
Attendees
Present
DKA, jo, edc, Dom, SeanP
Regrets
Alan, Bruce, Francois, JeffS, Jerome, Kai, Tom, Yeliz
Chair
DKA, Jo
Scribe
Jo
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]BP2 and implementation reports
2. [6]Status Reports on BP2
3. [7]CT Guidelines Update / Status / LC Comments
4. [8]CT Guidelines
5. [9]Issues and Actions tidy up
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<DKA>
[11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2010Mar/0000.htm
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[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2010Mar/0000.html
<scribe> scribe: Jo
BP2 and implementation reports
Status Reports on BP2
adam: lots of implementation reports from Google but have not seen
any others
dka: we're working on one at vodafone
dom: anyone else working on anything?
dka: how about if Starbucks offered free coffee vouchers in return
for implementation reports? (sic)
... how about transcoding vendors?
seanp: what are you looking for?
dka: not that you have to implement all of the bps, but if you can
show you implemented some of them then it would help
seanp: so if any of the BPs are being followed in the process of
transformation
dka: yeah
seanp: I'll check into it
dka: what about W3C?
dom: not sure, but would it help ref credibility?
... I'll look into it
... but don't think it will help ref CR
... quickly denies that he will look into it but that Francois will
adam: anyone have a contact with FaceBook?
dka: yes I do, I will contact them
... Facebook and Opera that is
CT Guidelines Update / Status / LC Comments
<scribe> ACTION: dan to contact facebook and Opera ref
implementation reports for BP2 [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1041 - Contact facebook and Opera ref
implementation reports for BP2 [on Daniel Appelquist - due
2010-03-09].
CT Guidelines
->
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010Jan
Mar/ Comments
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010JanMar/
<dom> [14]Thomas is happy
[14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010JanMar/0010.html
<dom> [15]PFWG happy with two, looking for consensus on third
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010JanMar/0012.html
jo: PFWG is going back to consider the outstanding point
dom: they have till March 11 to come back on it
<dom> [16]Anne's point on XMLHttpRequest
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010JanMar/0011.html
<dom> [17]Eduardo's comment
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-comments/2010JanMar/0013.html
dka: any other comments ... TAG ... ?
jo: no, nothing
dom: if we don't get feedback then we need to explain that we tried
to reach them and there was no reply
... director may ask questions, but basically we are done
jo: main concern is that we have no test suite
dka: someone needs to own the test suite
dom: given the time constraints, waiting means the document won't
get finished
dka: is there some way we can all join in to fill this void?
... what is the way forward, Dom?
dom: if people are implementing the guidelines they will need to do
something like this, so how about checking with potential
implementors to see if there is anything they can contribute
dka: so, Sean, is there anything you can share with the group
<EdC> A potential issue is that whatever transcoder vendors and
operators are doing are probably validation modules within their
existing (probably proprietary or in-house) testing harnesses.
dka: otherwise it will sit at CR for ever
... which would be a shame (summary)
seanp: I have enquired as to whether I could take charge of the test
suite, but not very positive as I am very busy
dka: but if you can contribute some tests of some sort then that
would be useful
seanp: don't think we have any tests that match up exactly
... we started work on it a while ago but have been waiting for
other bits to stabilize
... not clear that there is much vendor pull to complete
<EdC> Test suites usually contain input data set (i.e. WWW pages and
HTTP header), expected output specification (could be WWW pages with
HTTP header fields), and a programmed mechanism to process input
through a system under test and compare the outcome with expected
results. I would expect the first element to be usable, possibly the
second, but (except if it is really modular and made with open
software) little from the third.
seanp: I will check on this and we want to see this at Rec so I will
do my best
<scribe> ACTION: patterson to do his best to encourage his
colleagues to allow some time to be spent on CT test suite [recorded
in [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1042 - Do his best to encourage his
colleagues to allow some time to be spent on CT test suite [on Sean
Patterson - due 2010-03-09].
dka: sorry to pick on you Sean
<dom> EdC, I think the most important things is to get 1 and 2 done;
3 is just the icing on the cake
Issues and Actions tidy up
dka: er, perhaps we should defer this to another time
jo: er, OK, how often do we want calls from now on?
dka: how about we have calls as planned on 9th and 16th - not on
23rd, AC meeting, then resume on 30th
... I wont be here on 16th
[call adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: dan to contact facebook and Opera ref implementation
reports for BP2 [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: patterson to do his best to encourage his colleagues
to allow some time to be spent on CT test suite [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2010/03/02-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
[End of minutes]
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