- From: Alan Chuter <achuter@technosite.es>
- Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:13:07 +0100
- To: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group WG <public-bpwg@w3.org>
By the way, people should read Kai's replies to my comments by the way (especially Jo and Dom where mentioned specifically). Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich escribió: > Hi Alan, > > Thank for you input. That great stuff. > I will put my responses in the text and hope to see some other feedback > on Alan's points.... > > -- Kai > > > +Generally > > * Mark up the table of contents as a real UL list (without the BR line > breaks). > > -- sure. Thought this was already the case, but haven't looked in a > while. > > > * The section for each BP "Relevant device properties" needs some > explanation. I understand that this means properties that can be > detected on the server. This is covered in the BP document under "3.5 > Establishing Context" [4]. > > -- Dom had suggested putting this in and I think his intention was > different. > Dom? > > > * I think that references should be marked in the text > [REFERENCE_HANDLE] with a link to the section at the end of the page. > > -- Yes. Also, as Francois pointed out the Ref section needs to be > formatted as well. > > > +1.1 Purpose > > * "Mobile Web Best Practices contains sections against each best > practice" might be better written as "Each of the Mobile Web Best > Practices contains a section called "What to Test". > > * The preceding isn't really about the purpose of the document, but I > can't see where else it fits in. > > -- I think this came from Jo, so I would like to see what he thinks. > Also, we don't want to say "test". > Jo? > > > * Missing space in "evaluationsin". > > -- Ok > > > +1.2 Relationship to mobileOK Basic Tests > > * The second paragraph ("Many of the tests described in mobileOK Basic > Tests are...") is useful, and is an addendum to MWBP, but I don't think > it belongs in this section as many of the tests described in this > document are not useful when determining suitability of content for use > on more advanced devices either. It's more a general comment on MWBP as > a whole. > > -- Group feedback? > > * "completes the set of Best Practices" perhaps better as "completes the > set of tests for the Best Practices" > > -- Here too, shouldn't use "test". > Group feedback to Alan's point? > > > +2.1 Evaluation Scope > > It might be useful to cite the Web content Accessibility Guidelines (now > a W3C Recommendation), the section about conformance that has two > clauses "Full pages" and "Complete processes." These are not specific to > accessibility and apply equally well to MWBP. So we should mention them > I think. In fact, just below it the item "A concise description of the > Web pages" is also relevant. > > -- Since we are not asking for conformance, this might be a bit too > strong. > Group feedback? > > > +3.4 Background Image readability > > The Example should perhaps be an image (remembering > STYLE_SHEETS_SUPPORT). Without CSS it is black on white. > > The WCAG 2.0 Techniques [2] give a list of tools to check this, > including one developed especially for WCAG 2.0. I think that the > Ishihara Test for Color Blindness isn't very useful as it consists of > very specific examples. If people aren't using exactly those colours it > won't help them. > > WCAG success criterion 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum) [3] gives a definition, > and exceptions to this which might be worth mentioning. > > -- I disagree on using a picture as this is a test for contrast. White > on black is a good way to demonstrate this. > I am not aware of the Ishihara Test for Color Blindness being limited > to colors, but rather to contrast levels of two adjascent colors. > Either way it demonstrate very well what this point is about. > However we could certainly refer to more tools to check this issue. > > > > +3.5 Balance > > Under "Relevant device properties: Support for non-linear navigation > across links" I didn't understand this until I read the rest of the > section. Perhaps "non-sequential" or "skipping/jumping links" might be > clearer. > > -- Ok, I'll look at it, to make it clearer. > > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#conformance-reqs > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/G18 > [3] > http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-WCAG20-20081211/#visual-audio-contrast-con > trast > [4] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#d0e437 > > > > -- Alan Chuter Departamento de Usabilidad y Accesibilidad Consultor Technosite - Grupo Fundosa Fundación ONCE Tfno.: 91 121 03 30 Fax: 91 375 70 51 achuter@technosite.es http://www.technosite.es
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