- From: Yeliz Yesilada <yesilady@cs.man.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:29:35 +0000
- To: Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi>
- Cc: <achuter.technosite@yahoo.com>, "EOWG" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>, "MWI BPWG Public" <public-bpwg@w3.org>
I agree with Jo; I am also not sure what the proposed changes are. I thought there are five documents: 1. Working on WCAG 2.0 and MWBP together; 2. Starting from MWBP and extending/upgrading to WCAG 2.0 3. Starting from MWBP and extending/upgrading to WCAG 1.0 4. Starting from WCAG 1.0 and extending/upgrading to MWBP 5. Starting from WCAG 2.0 and extending/upgrading to MWBP What would be the other two proposed documents? Regards, Yeliz. On 14 Mar 2008, at 19:42, Jo Rabin wrote: > > I am all for simplifying it and making the document(s) more useful. > > But forgive me, I am not sure what this proposal means. How many > documents do we end up with in total? What is the subject matter of > each > of them? I'd like to think that we could treat WCAG 1.0 and 2.0 in the > same documents and so reduce the overall number of documents as > well as > complexity and possible confusion for the audience. > > Thanks > Jo > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-bpwg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-bpwg-request@w3.org] > On >> Behalf Of Alan Chuter >> Sent: 14 March 2008 17:34 >> To: EOWG; MWI BPWG Public >> Subject: Discussion on purpose of Mobile Accessibility document >> >> >> For those who were not on the call: It became apparent that something >> was very wrong with this page of the document [1]. There was no >> agreement on whether it was for going from MWBP to WCAG or the >> reverse. >> >> Following our discussion, and having stood back from the document for >> a while I realised what I believe is the problem is that the >> documents >> are structured around the mapping, not around what people are >> going to >> use it for. For each BP there are two paragraphs: >> >> 1. How does it especially help users with disabilities? >> 2. Does it help meet any WCAG 2.0 success criteria? >> >> While these appear to be slightly different takes on the same >> thing, I >> think that they are quite different >> >> 1. Is about the accessibility benefits of MWBP and the case for >> adopting from MWBP starting from WCAG (I've done WCAG, what is the >> accessibility justification for adopting some or all of MWBP?). From >> WCAG to MWBP. >> >> 2. Is about the work involved in adopting WCAG starting from MWBP >> (I've done MWBP, how much further do I have to go to comply with >> WCAG?) From WCAG to MWBP. >> >> So while the *mapping* is from MWBP to WCAG, the *use of the >> document* >> goes both ways. These two things should not be in the same >> document, I >> think. >> >> So at the cost of expanding from five pages to seven, and turning it >> inside out, I suggest splitting this up, so that we have: >> >> 1. Extending/Upgrading from WCAG to MWBP. >> * For each MWBP, the Accessibility Benefits of this BP (MWBP >> mapped to accessibility) >> * For each WCAG SC, does this WCAG SC that I have done give also >> me MWBP compliance? (WCAG mapped to MWBP) >> 2. Extending/Upgrading from WCAG to MWBP. >> * For each WCAG SC, the Mobile Benefits of this WCAG SC (WCAG >> mapped to MWBP) >> * For each MWBP, does this BP that I have done also give me WCAG >> SC compliance? (MWBP mapped to WCAG) >> >> I don't think that this will be as complicated as it seems, and will >> be easier to read. >> >> What worries me is that we've been looking at this for so long and >> not >> noticed what the problem. >> >> regards, >> >> Alan >> >> [1] >> > http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/Accessibility/ > drafts/ED > - >> mwbp-wcag-20080305/mwbp-wcag20.html#MINIMIZE_KEYSTROKES >> >> >> -- >> Alan Chuter, >> Senior Web Accessibility Consultant, Technosite (www.technosite.es) >> Researcher, Inredis Project (www.inredis.es/) >> Email: achuter@technosite.es >> Alternative email: achuter.technosite@yahoo.com >> Blogs: www.blogger.com/profile/09119760634682340619 > >
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