- From: Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:21:59 +0100
- To: Francois Daoust <fd@w3.org>
- CC: MWI BPWG Public <public-bpwg@w3.org>
And here it is, he says only just on the polite side of tersely. http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/mobileOK-Basic-1.0-Tests/080707r Diffs to all previous relevant drafts as links in the document. Jo On 07/07/2008 13:15, Jo Rabin wrote: > > Actually, I as recall it, Phil was part of the team that crafted the > current wording of the abstract ... be that as it may ... I am going to > say Content Provider that ... rather than authors that ... as this is > consistent with section 1 ... > > Jo > > On 07/07/2008 13:12, Francois Daoust wrote: >> +1 for the Abstract >> +1 for the Introduction >> >> "Draft 44!!!", the crowd shouts with excitment. >> >> Francois. >> >> On 7 juil. 08, at 13:39, Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi> wrote: >> >>> OK then the proposal is to remove 3 references to POWDER and to >>> change the abstract to say >>> >>> This document defines the tests that provide the basis for making a >>> claim of W3C® mobileOK Basic™ conformance and are based on W3C >>> Mobile Web Best Practices [Best Practices]. The details of how to >>> claim mobileOK conformance will be described separately. Content >>> which passes the tests has taken some steps to provide a functional >>> user experience for users of basic mobile devices whose capabilities >>> at least match those of the Default Delivery Context (DDC). >>> >>> mobileOK Basic primarily assesses basic usability, efficiency and >>> interoperability. It does not address the important goal of assessing >>> whether users of more advanced devices enjoy a richer user experience >>> than is possible using the DDC. >>> >>> >>> and change the intro to say >>> >>> mobileOK Basic is a scheme for assessing whether Web resources (Web >>> content) can be delivered in a manner that is conformant with Mobile >>> Web Best Practices [Best Practices] to a simple and largely >>> hypothetical mobile user agent, the Default Delivery Context. >>> >>> This document describes W3C mobileOK Basic tests for delivered >>> content, and describes how to emulate the DDC when requesting that >>> content. >>> >>> The intention of mobileOK is to help catalyze development of Web >>> content that provides a functional user experience in a mobile >>> context. It is not a test for browsers, user agents or mobile >>> devices, and is not intended to imply anything about the way these >>> should behave. >>> >>> mobileOK does not imply endorsement or suitability of content. For >>> example, it must not be assumed that a claim that a resource is >>> mobileOK conformant implies that it is of higher informational value, >>> is more reliable, more trustworthy or is more appropriate for >>> children than any other resource. >>> >>> speak now ... >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> >>> On 07/07/2008 12:21, Francois Daoust wrote: >>>> Jo Rabin wrote: >>>>> > to the point of starting a new hundread year war, but did you >>>>> skip that >>>>> > change on purpose? >>>>> >>>>> Get your crossbow ready: >>>> So much violence, tsss ;-) >>>>> >>>>> 1) According to my understanding and recollection of the call on >>>>> Thursday, the consensus went with Kai in saying that if a resource >>>>> was linked from a mobileOK document then the linked document should >>>>> not return a 406, though there is no requirement on it to be mobileOK. >>>> OK, I'm fine with that. >>>>> >>>>> 2) Ref POWDER, in the following >>>>> >>>>> Claims to be W3C mobileOK conformant are represented using >>>>> Description Resources (see [POWDER]), described separately >>>>> >>>>> for the sake of consistency with 1.3 you'd like it changed to >>>>> >>>>> Claims to be W3C mobileOK conformant will be represented using >>>>> Description Resources (see [POWDER]), described separately >>>>> >>>>> Is that the idea? >>>> Not exactly. The problem lies in mentioning POWDER. Using a future >>>> tense or oven a conditional tense does not completely solve the >>>> problem. I have to check this in details with some W3C Process >>>> specialist, but at Proposed Recommendation (and Recommendation), the >>>> only visible specifications are the ones that are Recommendations as >>>> well (with the very recent possibility to mention RDFa, but that's >>>> another story), and we cannot say that POWDER is going to become a >>>> Recommendation at that point, even though that's very very likely, >>>> and even though we really really want to use it... (well, we may end >>>> up with RDFa as Phil pointed out) >>>> What I suggest is to completely remove the mention of POWDER from >>>> this document, not to introduce any dependency here. The mobileOK >>>> Scheme document will be dependent on POWDER, but mobileOK Basic >>>> Tests does not have to be. Final text in all three places could be: >>>> "The details of the mechanism for claiming mobileOK conformance will >>>> be described separately." >>>> Francois, who deeply apologizes for willing to eradicate POWDER from >>>> all our documents... not my fault! >>> >
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