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Re: MobileOK Tests (was [agenda] Agenda for BPWG Call 2008-02-07)

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:21:14 +0100
To: "MWI BPWG Public" <public-bpwg@w3.org>
Cc: "MobileOK Pro Task Force" <public-bpwg-pro@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.t6xdxos0wxe0ny@widsith.local>

[Should we shift this thread to the mOKPro list? X=posted for now, please  
follow up there only unless there is some special reason to bother  
everyone else too]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:39:53 +0100, Jo Rabin <jrabin@mtld.mobi> wrote:

> I'm fine with some tests being excluded as "non testable", however think
> we need to be clear that there are more ways of testing than just the
> visual assessment of the output from a site.
> For example, TESTING is in principle verifiable by doing a simple audit
> of the development process and verifying that test records show that the
> process was followed. I'm personally not in favour of specifying this
> audit type of approach.

Actually, I am in favour of giving some guidance along these lines. Like  
the discussion about things that help accessibility but don't give actual  
conformance, this should be clearly marked.

But I agree with Jo - testing can be done in many ways. I am sick of  
people saying you can't test language simplicity - there are several known  
machine tests and simple semi-automated tests that can be done reliably.  
In some cases what is missing is the imagination to produce them or the  
effort to discover that they are already available. I think we should be  
very wary of claiming that something is untestable, and instead just say  
where we haven't agreed on a decent test...



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