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RE: [agenda] Agenda for BPWG Call 2008-02-07

From: Scheppe, Kai-Dietrich <k.scheppe@telekom.de>
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:48:55 +0100
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Summary of mobileOK Pro F2F in London:

Without much ado, here is a summary (from memory, since I don't have any
minutes at the moment) what was done and agreed upon....

Item: Concerns from Jo, Sean, Dom regarding the existance of the group
Jo was kind enough to join us on Wednesday and we addressed the various
points with him in the meeting.
1) legitimization of the TF
Discussion about this was tabled as views changed.  Once there was great
support, now there is less.  However, it remains for the TF to
demonstrate that it will do the work in time, which seems to be the main
2) implementation experience of mobileOK Basic needed for mobileOK Pro
This was accepted as a possibility, but the TF strongly suggests that in
the absence of existing mobileOK Pro all discussion about this point is
moot.  If there is no interest in the public in general, then mobileOK
Pro may whither away, but at the moment neither positive nor negative
claims can be made.
3) lack of consumer pull for mobileOK Pro
see 2)
4) potential lack of meaning of self-certified compliance to mobileOK
A claim will remain a claim, until certified.  This has been the nature
of mobileOK and will remain so. 
Furthermore, the educational approach of mobileOK still exists where
BPWG hopes to enlighten the public that there are better ways to build
mobile friendly sites.  mobileOK Pro is essential in that.
Lastly, the tests are designed to offer bracketing, when needed, to aid
in coming to the right test results.  As was point out by Sean many
times, just having people adhere to mobileOK Basic would be a great
The same goes for mobileOK Pro.  If people even think about and consider
their actions in light of mobileOK Pro, much will be helped.
5) points which have been dropped from WCAG and which may have
similarities with mobileOK Pro.
Alan will come back to the group with information where this may be

Item: Milestones
By Feb 21:  
- submission more detailed charter
- submission 1st draft of mobileOK Pro Tests
- request for issue of 1st public working draft of mobileOK Pro Tests

Next F2F March 19
- reworking with feedback from group and public

- LC in June
- CR End of June

Item: mobileOK Pro Tests
- We went through all tests, save one which we simply didn't get to.
- the document will be edited on Googledocs and is already being
modified as we speak (task is to reexamine the tests and flesh out
- TODO: Reexamination of the mobileOK Basic Tests for partial coverage
of BPs, followed by creation of additional Pro Tests if needed

Item: Notes to BPWG and Open issues
- We have identified several points we wish to communicate to the WG
about some of the BP, especially for consideration BP 2.0

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