- From: bret douglass <bret_douglass@yahoo.com>
- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:08:43 -0800 (PST)
- To: public-bpwg@w3.org
- Cc: "Daniel B." <REMOVEdanielTHIS@fgm.com>
The primary issue of the thread was whether a single url would suffice for both normal, http, computer based web browsing and mobile (whatever form it should take) web browsing, or whether, possibly, a different transfer protocol might be called for. I was weighing in on the side of a single url, and suggesting that with appropriately structured stylesheets (and devices which can properly interpret them) a single url, a single tp, and even a single web page would be more than adequate to serve content across the board. My suggestion was that, given the diversity in handheld devices, both in terms of screen size, color depth, and method and ease of interactivity, that the current, single, valid stylesheet media type of 'handheld' was inadequate. While in retrospect I'll admit 'wireless' was a weakly descriptive additional stylesheet media type, my argument stands that more media types are required. (Admittedly, this is probably a discussion more appropriate to the CSS list; hopefully, it will be propagated to that list as well). But my point on the thread stands: A user shouldn't need to remember more than one url; it's bad enough that in many cases they have to remember whether a site is in the .com, .net, .org, .biz, .home, .us, etc. domain, as the initial logic of the master domains hasn't been particularly enforced. The nuances of what content to be served depending on the device it's being served to should be the responsibility of the site designer, and it's simple logic that a designer which makes it easier for a user to remember and access their site will get more hits across the device spectrum. Requiring additional urls is lazy, and requiring additional protocols is unnecessary. As to Wi-Fi, I don't believe that yet falls into the realm of mobile computing, as one can't join a wi-fi network, hop onto a bus, and ride across town (or the state, or the country) and expect uninterupted web access. Perhaps someday, but for the moment, only handheld devices such as PalmPilots, BlackBerrys, and certain cell phones come close to offering this roaming web access, which (to my way of thinking) is the thrust of the Mobile Initiative. In summary, one url, one transfer protocol, more stylesheet media types. --Bret --- "Daniel B." <REMOVEdanielTHIS@fgm.com> wrote: > bret douglass wrote: > > > > > The sole difference in the source code between the > > emulations are the stylesheets. The 'handheld' > > experience includes all the information in the > site > > sans the images; the 'wireless' experience reduces > the > > site to the abbreviated address, phone and fax > numbers > > and hours for the two sites, the information a > mobile > > user is most likely to be seeking. > > You are mixing the properties of wirelessness > (connecting wirelessly > to the Internet) and mobility with being a > mobile/cellular phone. > > "Wireless" includes cellular phones, wireless PDAs > (Wi-Fi or other), > and laptops with Wi-Fi connections (and, > technically, wirelessly > connected non-mobile devices). > > "Mobile" includes the same items, except the > non-mobile ones, of > course. > > Screen size is (roughly) implied by "handheld" > (well, when coming from > "handheld computer," as opposed to _anything_ > handheld, which could > include phones). > > However, screen size is not implied by being > wireless or by being > mobile (consider the multiple wireless devices > listed above). > > You need some term that refers to mobile _phones_; > being a phone > (other than a big-screen PDA phone) is the property > that implies > a smaller screen size. > > > Daniel > > > Contact: Brett Doelling 2933 2nd Ave Apt 109 Seattle WA 98121 206.256.6221 bret_douglass@yahoo.com http://bret-douglass.com __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
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