- From: Manrique Lopez <manrique.lopez@fundacionctic.org>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:17:02 +0200
- To: public-bpwg-pro@w3.org
Hello everybody, Since F2F agenda has changed and I am not 100% sure if I will be able to stay on wednesday afternoon, I send some MOK PRO questions to discuss about: 3.1 Test Scope Perhaps a better definition about what tests should be applied to one page or multiple? (perhaps indicate it in each test?) Which pages should I take for a "multiple pages" test? 4.1 Access Keys We have "primary navigation links" in the "interpretation" but "navigation links and form controls" in the "procedure". Should it be the same text in both sections? 4.3 Avoid Free Text Take care about too big "finite number". 4.4 Background Image Readability Testing contrast for "each color", is it practical in an image with degraded colors? (machine testable, isn't it?) Perhaps it would be better adding reference to WCAG 2.0 tests instead of Ishihara in the examples. 4.6 Device Capabilities Imagine a page with videos that, for me, doesn't have any sense for mobile context, and it doesn't serve them in the mobile page version. According with the test, it would fail, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be better 'testing' if there is an alternative suitable for mobile context? 4.8 Limited Very similar to 4.19 in definition but not same text about link ID. Reading the test, can I link to "not mobile web-sites"? It seems not 4.9 Clarity Maybe we could take some 'info' or resources from WCAG2.0 instead of letting it so open as it is now. References: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#understandable When will you fail this test? 4.12 Control Labeling How can a machine (easily) test that the label does not describe the purpose of the form control? Perhaps not so 100% machine testable Open issues: Are empty labels "" acceptable, if the meaning of the field is made clear in some other fashion? Perhaps for search boxes or date entry boxes? 4.13 Control Position What's the difference between first and third test? 4.17 Fonts Adding a "tagcloud" as example of information based on font size could help. I.e.: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/ 4.19 Link Target ID In the note BPWG "title" could be added to link ID 4.21 Navbar Second tests is same than 4.7 4.22 Navigation I don't know if testing texts are clear enough 4.25 Page Size Usable Instead of "screen size", could it be better "screen length" to avoid confussion. Which "size" is the base for "3 screen sizes"? (see 4.36 TESTING proposal) 4.26 Page Title I think that second test may conflicts with third example 4.27 Provide Defaults Perhpas, we should add a condition about "if any free data entry is present"... and a link to Avoid Free text tests 4.28 Scrolling I am not sure how this tests work when "texts" are the elements that make horizontal scrolling appears. How could we "resize texts"? 4.36 Testing Procedure: define some capabilities and some values for each one based in DDR Vocab. Specially: - Display Width (needed perhaps for Scrolling tests) - Display Height (needed perhaps for Limited tests) This information could be provided in a "mobileOK Pro Tests report" (does POWDER or EARL provide this kind of feature?).Something like: Capabilities tested: - Display height: 90, 240, 320 ... So: - If display dimensions aren't in the list of "capabilities tested" [FAIL] - If number of values for each display capability is less than three [FAIL] - If all the values can't be tested both in devices and emulators [FAIL] Editor note. Perhaps other values could be added to improve other tests and made them more "repeatable": - Display Color Depth (needed perhaps for Device Capabilities testing) - Stylesheet Support (needed perhaps for Style Sheet Support testing) - Image Format Support (needed perhaps for Device Capabilities testing) - Script Support (needed perhaps for Device Capabilities testing) 4.38 Use of color It says: "Excluding hyperlinks, does the page include any other blue or purple text? If yes, [FAIL]" Then, I should put the links in blue or purple, shouldn't I? Shouldn't it be better something like: Excluding hyperlinks, does the page include any other text with same color than hyperlinks? If yes, [FAIL] Best regards, -- José Manrique López de la Fuente <manrique.lopez@fundacionctic.org> Área de Tecnología Fundación CTIC Web: http://www.fundacionctic.org Tel: (+34) 984 29 12 12 Parque Científico Tecnológico de Gijón Edificio Centros Tecnológicos Cabueñes s/n 33203 GIJÓN - ASTURIAS - ESPAÑA #Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos.
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