Re: [wmlprogramming] Verizon, guidelines

On 19 Dec 2008, at 18:50, Luca Passani wrote:

>> We resolved to add an explicit text in this section that states  
>> that inferring that a desktop User-Agent is needed in the absence  
>> of any indication (e.g. URI patterns) is contrary to the guidelines.
> Francois, Can I find the text  you are referring to somewhere?

It's a resolution referred to at the top of the minutes here:

	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg-ct/2008Nov/0079.html

"Add some text in 4.1.5 to state that inferring that a desktop User- 
Agent is needed in the absence of any indication (e.g. URI  patterns)  
is contrary to the guidelines"
	
> anyway, my interpretation of your sentence is that, in case of a URI  
> of the form "www.*" it is OK to spoof the UA string. Do I understand  
> correctly?

I suggest you re-read section 4.1.5 of the CT document:

	http://www.w3.org/TR/ct-guidelines/#sec-altering-header-values

This section of the document makes it clear that HTTP headers are not  
to be altered other than in specific circumstances, and would prohibit  
transcoders from changing user-agents in situations where URLs don't  
match patterns judged to be mobile-specific... which is the behaviour  
Verizon/Novarra were suggesting is OK. The reaction from the CT group  
has been to specifically add a section saying "no, this isn't OK".

Bearing in mind your new rule that "engaging in long discussion is  
only acceptable when done in good
faith with an open mind and respect for other people's viewpoints."  
I'm not sure we can usefully discuss this particular point much further.

Tom

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